Gluten-8

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by LushGreenLawn, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. Mr. Nice

    Mr. Nice LawnSite Member
    from zone 7
    Posts: 155

    I wonder if it's cause of product dilution rate per thou to give you your 2%?N rate?

    like going light with 46-0-0.

    Have you read the test studies all from Iowa? Have you figured out how many grams/lbs they really used to produce more then 50% herbicidal affect and up per sq meter? per thou?

    my estimate says a lot of product is really needed?
     
  2. Mr. Nice

    Mr. Nice LawnSite Member
    from zone 7
    Posts: 155

    gagolf,

    Isolating one or many amino/peptides/proteins will only make your N content higher.

    Again how do you remove the N and not effect the peptides responsible for the herbicidal qualities?

    Low app rate and dilution is the only way I can think of now to lower N rate per... anybody else have any idea's?
     
  3. wallzwallz

    wallzwallz LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 361

    Nattylawns, yes I plan on doing the entire lawn w/ organic fert and compost tea. The problem areas of crabgrass are the weakest areas of grass so a little extra N won't hurt and if applied in april, any noticeable difference should be gone by Memorial day? That's the unofficial start of Summer on Cape Cod.
     
  4. JDUtah

    JDUtah LawnSite Silver Member
    from UT
    Posts: 2,636

    I would agree with gagolf. Increase the % ai (the herbicidaly active proteins) and you have to apply less product. Less product = less N per K.

    Maybe they have a lot of waste during manufacturing, maybe that waste goes into the 123?

    Bill?
     
  5. Mr. Nice

    Mr. Nice LawnSite Member
    from zone 7
    Posts: 155

    Is this product using isolated AI proteins only?
     
  6. Mr. Nice

    Mr. Nice LawnSite Member
    from zone 7
    Posts: 155

    If you could isolate the bio active proteins only you would indeed be applying less over all N to the area.

    Is that the case here?
     
  7. ICT Bill

    ICT Bill LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,115

    Apologies for being absent, this is show season, meet me on the show floor

    Indeed Gluten-8 is 1.5% nitrogen instead of the granular which is 10%. applied this works out to 1/3 of a pound of nitrogen per 1000 sq ft

    The mix rate is 1 quart (32 OUNCES) Gluten-8 to 3 quarts water, the mix treats 1000 square feet

    signed, exhausted
     
  8. Mr. Nice

    Mr. Nice LawnSite Member
    from zone 7
    Posts: 155

    To better serve the buying public could you please explain if your product
    uses only CGMH made from biological enzymes? or is you product made with the isolated
    bio active proteins only......... or is it made with both?
     
  9. roccon31

    roccon31 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 119

    ok so for 10M you need 2.5 gals of product. how much is this stuff? what does it come in? gallons/quart/5gallon????
     
  10. ICT Bill

    ICT Bill LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,115

    For 10M you need 10 quarts or 2 1/2 gallons to treat at the recommended rate of 20 pounds per 1000 if it was granular. $99.875 to treat 10M

    1 quart of Gluten-8 is equal to 20 pounds of granular CGM. 1 gallon of Gluten-8 (9 pounds) treats 4000 sq ft, equal to 80 pounds of CGM.

    The mix rate is 3 to 1, 3 quarts water to 1 quart Gluten-8 which treats 1000 sq ft
    It comes in gallon containers which treat 4000 sq ft. One pallet (192 gallons) will treat 17.6 acres. We also have (limited quantities) 275 gallon IBC's available that treat 25.252 acres

    1 gallon is $39.95 or roughly $10 per 1000, there are discounts on pallets and 275 gallon IBC's
     
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2009

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