Good source for comparing equipment pricing and specs?

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by alldayrj, Jun 6, 2013.

  1. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
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    I paid 5K for the VTS system on Iron Planet and got almost half back after 1000 hours on the track system.

    The number is strictly depreciation. Other than snapping a chain on the 440 I had no issues with the machine.

    The sales tax is factored in to the purchase price, what I posted is what I paid.
     
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  2. KrayzKajun

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    Hey fellas. Anyone know where i could find a cab door for my mustang 2044 skidsteer? Could i retrofit a door from another machine to fit mine?
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  3. ksss

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    I liked it also, but I don't see how they could charge 15K for it. I think new that should have been about half that, with reasonable parts prices and I think they would have done better with that. Overall, I got to run a "tracked machine" for 1000 hours pretty cheap. I learned a lot with that VTS. I found out how important a CTL can be, even if you live in high desert conditions.
     
  4. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
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    So money aside , would you rather a vts machine or dedicated ctl?
     
  5. swanny

    swanny LawnSite Senior Member
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    what's the main use for it? Do you mind the extra weight (and, in some cases, width) the vts contributes to the machine?
     
  6. ksss

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    I feel like the CTL is more robust, its made to run as a unit, where the VTS is not. The width of the VTS can be an issue, I understand that later they made them more narrow. They are heavy, about 1800 pounds per side as I recall. I liked the ride of the VTS, hands down better than a solid suspended CTL. I understand replacement parts are slow to come and expensive, I never replaced anything on mine.

    Its hard to not put money in the equation. However if its not an issue I am very happy with the CTL. I would go that route.

    If money is an issue or at least a concern.............

    If you can find a VTS cheap, and the draw backs don't effect you, I would go that route, especially if it is not cost effective to trade out of the wheeled machine, but you need to get it cheap. I would look at it as disposable. Run it until you can justify a dedicated CTL. The benefit of swapping back and forth is overrated I believe. Few people seem to bother doing that, me included. I never did swap back and forth, not once. Granted however I had another wheeled machine.
     
  7. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
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    Very good points. I've found that jack of all trades are never as good as having the right tool for the job. Having a ctl and a wheel machine is obviously the best of both worlds. Unfortunately I can't land on a size. Half the time I want the tak 230 but its so similar to my gehl in size and power that I think I want something small like the terex pt30 to work where the gehl can't. I guess I need one of each size and a money tree
     
  8. alldayrj

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    Where I work is tight. The smaller the better. And I do a lot of work on pavement loading trucks and material, ripping out concrete etc. the more I throw it around the more I lean to buying another machine. Then you always have the right one
     
  9. ksss

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    It sounds like you would need two machines. We do a lot concrete removal and spend time on asphalt as well. A single tracked machine for me would not be the answer. I have the TR320 and a 465. Both of these are large machines. I do sometimes which I had a smaller wheeled machine, but I make do. I would rather have a large wheel machine and if worse comes to worse you can always rent a smaller one (cheap to find and rent). Trying to rent a 3000 plus ROC machine is more difficult.
     
  10. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
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    You will always need a bigger smaller machine for those few jobs. I'm just trying to find what I will need most of the time. This is super hard to define since business is always changing but I really need to get some demos going so I can figure it out.

    Another hurtle is moving to pilot controls. I've run hand a feet since I was 9(24 now) and I felt like a moron trying them out at the dealer. Any tips from the guys who have made the change?
     

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