google ranking gone, but still ranked highn on MSN & Yahoo????

Discussion in 'Digital Marketing' started by birdturd9726, Apr 28, 2009.

  1. birdturd9726

    birdturd9726 LawnSite Member
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    my google ranking for my key phrases is not showing up, so i must be coming up on pages 100+. But for the same key phrases i am ranked 1 and 3 on both yahoo and MSN? What can i be doing wrong with google????
     
  2. fool32696

    fool32696 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Were you ranked before? If so you're most likely being punished for some frowned upon SEO techniques.
     
  3. birdturd9726

    birdturd9726 LawnSite Member
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    yes, i was ranked #2 then slowly dropped to #34 then #54, then i changed my website around and now im not ranked. how can i check if i have been punished, or how can i fix it.
     
  4. Team-Green L&L

    Team-Green L&L LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Here's a quick rundown on the things I'd change on your site just for some feedback. You are more-than-likely being penalized. I will analyze your inbound links and on-site stuff to see if I spot the problem:

    Here are a few things:

    1. Disable right-click is worthless. IE looks right past it and it's more Java. I was already ranked when I added that java, but when I'm still optimizing I will not add this script. Pandora's box will always be opened more frequently than that which is not hidden.

    2. You've got a "boat-load" of hidden comment tags for EVERYTHING. That looks a bit spammy to a spider. There is no need to have a comment tag for <!--ParagraghTitle--> or <!--End Paragraph Title-->. Drop some of these and you may find it helps.

    3. Your footer is "keyword-stuffed" to the guild. WOW! You are obviously using Black Hat in your footer and Google is quick to see this "old-school" tactic. Get rid of all the footer text containing zipcodes and areas serviced. Obvious spam. If it's in your footer make sure it's in your Sitemap (good rule of thumb).

    Other than fixing these 3 things, I would make better use of your comment tags with keywords well placed, write 10-20 unique articles of 500-800 characters and use them as content with links to well-respected reference sites. I would then secure a couple good backlinks to the articles. So, be sure not to sound commercial in your writing, but rather, educational.
     
  5. Team-Green L&L

    Team-Green L&L LawnSite Bronze Member
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    You've also some some backlinks from irrelevant sites. I would probably try to have as many backlinks as possible be relevant. Irrelevant backlinks certainly don't help, and could potentially being harming to a successful SEO campaign.

    Here are the links I found to be:

    Irrelevant:

    www.pandrentertainment.com
    www.nelogic.com
    www.loveyaar.com
    www.dogbreedz.com
    www.coolcanine.com
    www.hinduwebsite.com
    www.zvents.com


    Questionable:

    www.rodanenterprise.com

    In another language:

    http://www.moje.centrum-pilki.info/
    www.nord-amerika-suche.de
    zoek.versatel.nl

    Really, this is just a sample. You have 245 backlinks and the majority of them fall into 1 of the above negative categories. You do have some important good backlinks from dmoz and directories, but you have a tone of "spammy links". So, if I were a Google Engineer or Bot and analyzed your site to see if you were using Black Hat I would see:

    1. Keyword Stuffing
    2. Excessive Comment Tags
    3. No alt tags on images
    4. Poor Backlink Affiliates
    5. Incoming Links from potentially harmful sites hosted outside the US.

    just from that you would get penalized. I hope this helps some...
     
  6. birdturd9726

    birdturd9726 LawnSite Member
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    thanks for all the help. im working on everything. I changed my footer, & disabled the no right click. I am not sure how to delete the excessive comment tags as my site is created with webs.com using a template. I am going to be adding alt tags on my images ASAP. Also i am not sure how i got all these back links to places outside of the US. Can you tell me what i can do to help my site regain ranking. Thanks
     
  7. Team-Green L&L

    Team-Green L&L LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,776

    I would do everything I could to correct the above. You can delete the comment tags with any HTML editor; I use Dreamweaver or Notepad. In this case, I would just delete them on notepad and re-upload to the server.

    As far the links, I would email each site a request to discontinue the link. I would counter all the negative incoming links with positive outgoing links accompanied by a link request sent to the webmaster of your positive link partners asking them to supply you a link that would benefit their traffic. If you are personal with them, they will respond. I give links to those who take the time to ask me for one in a polite way and mutually-benefiting way.

    I would add "nofollow" tags to any link that was not relevant to my industry or purpose.

    Lastly, I would create a sitemap (manually) and upload it to Google's Webmaster Central. The new sitemap should only include the pages you want indexed.
     
  8. birdturd9726

    birdturd9726 LawnSite Member
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    thanks!!
    how do i find all 245 backlinks???
    how do i create a sitemanp manually
     
  9. Team-Green L&L

    Team-Green L&L LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Here is a site to check all your backlinks: http://wholinkstome.com/

    To create a sitemap. You will need to know how one is written and I don't have the time, nor the patience to try to teach that in a forum. Use this site to create a sitemap of ALL your pages/links and then open up the sitemap (uncompressed) with Notepad and delete all the entries that have no value to a search engine. http://www.xml-sitemaps.com/
     
  10. birdturd9726

    birdturd9726 LawnSite Member
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    i created a sitemap using that site and just uploaded it to google. do i need to delete the unwanted pages. The only pages i would think are unwanted would be photo album pages, but yet the descriptions sometimes rank top 10 in google.
     

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