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grass won't grow..

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by qualitylandscaping, Oct 18, 2003.

  1. qualitylandscaping

    qualitylandscaping LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,581

    I've been working on a property for the last two years trying to get grass to grow in their backyard. I have everything I can think of and nothing has worked. I have tried sod, and several different types of grass seed. The lot is shaded but not enough to prevent light from getting through (i.e. the problem doesn't have to do with the amount of light). The homeowner's had a soil test done three years ago and they told me it came back ok. I recommended letting me do a soil test, but they refused "Nothing has changed in three years Steve, the soil is fine". We did get grass to grow but it is very thin. Re-seeded it twice and no improvement. He watered as instructed. No grubs or insects. But anyway, I was there today trimming the shrubs and I took some pictures.. I would appreciate any help you can give me.

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  2. qualitylandscaping

    qualitylandscaping LawnSite Bronze Member
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  3. qualitylandscaping

    qualitylandscaping LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,581

    The problem area is inside the line in the direction the arrows are pointing..

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  4. qualitylandscaping

    qualitylandscaping LawnSite Bronze Member
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    last one..

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  5. The Lawn Boy Pro

    The Lawn Boy Pro LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,218

    Aerate, overseed (with a shade mix), up the N, add some organic matter.
  6. qualitylandscaping

    qualitylandscaping LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,581

    already been done..
  7. TLS

    TLS LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 7,937

    Chop the trees down.

    Not only are they the cause chemically, but also solarly, and they are like an umbrella in the rain.
  8. VLM

    VLM LawnSite Member
    Posts: 189

    Seen this same problem many times. The 2 large trees are blocking the sun. To get turf to really thrive it needs atleast a half day of full sun. Also, you may have over seeded with red fescue (a common seed used for shady areas). In my experience, this stuff will never form a nice lawn. It's thin, slow growing and tends to clump rather than spread. My advice to customers with this problem is to either remove the trees or put in a new bed with azaleas, hostas etc. Forget the grass, it aint gonna happen.
  9. GarPA

    GarPA LawnSite Silver Member
    from PA
    Posts: 2,585

    right on VLM...does not matter what seed is used, a shady area needs a min of 4 hours of sun per day. have a number of customers in a shady neighborhood. EVERY yard is thin..even after numerous seedings. On my own property I am watching a section get thinner and thinner each year as the honey locusts get larger in the yard.

    Solution? Like VLM said, install a planting bed in the shaded area...or remove the trees (not an option most people will go for)
  10. rodfather

    rodfather LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 9,501

    I agree with tommy...86 the trees if they want decent grass there.

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