Grasshopper

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by walker45, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. walker45

    walker45 LawnSite Member
    from va
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    Anyone familiar with the Grasshopper 618 someone wants to trade a 618 w/ grasscatcher 18 HP Kohler with 385hr for my Great Dane Chariot 61 w kawa 25 and 315hrs both are in good shape is this a pretty even trade anyone can give me good or bad on grasshopper I'm asking 4K for mine are the values pretty even both are 01-02 models
     
  2. StihlMechanic

    StihlMechanic LawnSite Bronze Member
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    4000 sounds like a fair price. Its a tough mower but its like comparing apples to oranges considering its a front deck machine. I used to have a 616. I liked it for trimming. Watch out if you mow high grass. The driveshaft will get wrapped in grass. Also the primary pulley for the hydros wear on the inside of the sheave. You wont know it until it wont go up a hill. Most people assume the trans are bad but it is just the pulley, like 40 bucks. I would own one again for sure.
     
  3. Birdhunter1

    Birdhunter1 LawnSite Senior Member
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    My dealer had a newer 618 and 500 hr 723K last year in the same price range, the 618 had a 48" deck and the 723 had a 52". He talked me out of the 618 due to a little grade and a few steep slopes on my place, he said he never cared for the 600 series and wouldn't push to sell them, but if someone wanted one he'd order one. He said they were built very well but the narrower frame makes for a rougher ride and not as stable on a slope. Like I said they were the same price so he probably would have made the same on either sale, I went with the 723.
     
  4. walker45

    walker45 LawnSite Member
    from va
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    I haven't seen this one in person yet but he says it has the 54 inch deck, my worry also is the 18 HP being undersized. Thanks for info
     
  5. jp1119

    jp1119 LawnSite Member
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    it would be a 52 inch deck and it does have enough power i have an old 720 with the 52 and the power is plentiful. The shaft drive transfers the torque of the engine better. Sounds like a good deal to me
     
  6. mcduff48

    mcduff48 LawnSite Member
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    Depending on the year of the machine. the 618 may or may not be a good deal. There were a lot of 618s sold with Kohler "TRIAD" engines and they have been a big problem. The cylinder sleeves drop and take out a conn. rod, wasting the engine. Grasshopper and Kohler both used to participate in a retro-fit program but Kohler has since stopped all support. The fix is to upgrade to a Command engine.......Jim:usflag:
     
  7. StihlMechanic

    StihlMechanic LawnSite Bronze Member
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    The year model he is referring to has the command, the triad hasnt been used in years.
     
  8. Sammy

    Sammy LawnSite Bronze Member
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    If the grass catcher is the dump from the seat type, that alone is worth about $1,500.00
     
  9. mcduff48

    mcduff48 LawnSite Member
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    Grasshopper introduced the 18HP Kohler Command in the 618 tractors in 2003.
    From 1998 through 2002 the Kohler DOHC Triad was the standard power plant.
    I hope this helps.....Jim :usflag:
     
  10. walker45

    walker45 LawnSite Member
    from va
    Posts: 62

    here is a pic of the Grasshopper 618 trying to find out what engine it has also will attach a pic of the Great Dane I have to trade and does it look like a good trade both have 300+ hrs

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