Gravely 144M XDZ or Hustler Super Mini?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Jeds_Lawn_Care, Feb 6, 2007.

  1. Jeds_Lawn_Care

    Jeds_Lawn_Care LawnSite Senior Member
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    Here are the two mowers I am looking at

    Gravely 144M XDZ

    and

    Hustler Super Mini w/ 44in Deck and 23hp Kawi

    There is about $1400 difference in price between these two (the hustler being more expensive), but I know that in lawn service you get what you pay for.

    Which of these would you choose? And why? I am seriously looking at buying either of these.
     
  2. Jeds_Lawn_Care

    Jeds_Lawn_Care LawnSite Senior Member
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    Also I want to have about 20-25 yards, and work about 2-3 days a week.
     
  3. Jeds_Lawn_Care

    Jeds_Lawn_Care LawnSite Senior Member
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    bump........
     
  4. Jeds_Lawn_Care

    Jeds_Lawn_Care LawnSite Senior Member
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    Guys I really need some input here!
     
  5. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
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    My opinion...

    I like the Hustler people and the Hustler company best.

    But when it comes to comparing small ZTR's...
    Hustler doesn't have an answer for Gravely's entries.

    Few companies do in that arena.

    For $1,400 less it's a total and complete NO-BRAINER.
    Get the Gravely.
     
  6. Jeds_Lawn_Care

    Jeds_Lawn_Care LawnSite Senior Member
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    Thanks. Do you think I am comparing apples to apples here? Is a Super Mini 44 the hustler equivalent to a Gravely 144m xdz?
     
  7. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
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    Yeah, you are comparing apples to apples there.

    But in meaningful features the Gravely just wears out the Hustler.

    Hustler is a good company and has a good unit, so don't get me wrong....
    The frame and all of that... very nice... and well built.

    The trouble is that Hustler falls behind on the business-end of things.
    The deck on the Mini's is just so tight and shallow.

    The 15 mph ground speed on it is like an oxymoron and just wastes engine power.
    The bigger pumps and higher geared wheel motors draw the power.
    And it's not like you can use the speed anywhere but on hard surfaces.

    The Gravely has all the speed you'll ever need for MOWING.
    It has a better deck that's like 1.5" deeper... that's a lot...
    And it's a LOT more free flowing.

    The Gravely also has those nice big and tall front caster tires.
    Those help smooth out the bumps, cross curbs, ect.

    They also have those safety drive sticks too.
    You are not trapped under them and can bail-out with them in any position, etc.
     
  8. Jeds_Lawn_Care

    Jeds_Lawn_Care LawnSite Senior Member
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    Thanks Mr. Envy. Your information is appreciated! Yeah I didn't think I would ever use the 13mph ground speed.

    Is there anyone else out the that has any recommendation?

    I'm 15 years old and spending $6-7k is a decision I want to be sure about. I'd love to hear from anyone who has owned a 144M XDZ!
     
  9. Jeds_Lawn_Care

    Jeds_Lawn_Care LawnSite Senior Member
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    I just have a few questions for you Mr. Envy

    What exactly did you mean by tight?
    Is the mulching kit on a Gravely better than a Hustler? I am going to be doing probobly about 70/30 Mulching/Side-Discharge
    Big tires are awesome.:cool2: I went in to the Gravely dealer today and, before even reading this post, noticed how obnoxiously large the front casters were.:)

    Thanks so much for your input I really appreciate it.
     
  10. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
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    What I meant by "tight" is that the Hustler deck is not only rather shallow...

    But the internal baffling is rather tight around the blades and the discharge opening is really small. This causes the deck to be limited in performance because of reduced flow capacity.

    Some 'flow control' is desirable, but too much or too little can adversely effect performance.

    As far as mulching is concerned... restriction goes out the window... as what you want there is the blades isolated into their own chamber with the addition of a mulch baffle kit.

    My opinion is that the Gravely will also perform better at mulching too because the chamber depth is around 1.5" deeper and can handle more clipping volume in the cycle without loading up or straining the engine.

    PLUS the XZD deck has probably the easiest kit on the market to install/remove.
    The Hustler does not even come with the deck pre-drilled for installing the available kit.

    I sent you a PM by the way....
     

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