Great Men think so much alike!

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by Eden Lights, Oct 23, 2007.

  1. Eden Lights

    Eden Lights LawnSite Senior Member
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    Pete:
    "How do you feel about full 360 shields? Great for glare control also great as a debris collector?"

    HPL:
    "I especially like the cup of a shield they have that holds water and debris real well. After it stews in there for awhile it makes a real nice brown soup which crusts on the lens."
     
  2. pete scalia

    pete scalia LawnSite Senior Member
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    Thanks for the compliment. I'm sure HPL would feel the same.
     
  3. Eden Lights

    Eden Lights LawnSite Senior Member
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    I just finished the design for this home and we are putting several fixtures on this tree at the entry way. It has a main viewing angle from the drive and you walk around the back of the tree on the way to the front door. What fixtures would you guys use? For me it's a BK Delta Star B Cap, HK ZX16 B Cap, Lumiere 203 Standard, and we have been playing with the new Vista 2220LS hoping it would be less expensive, but that doesn't look like thats going to be the case. The HK has the best drain holes and it even shields the lamp at the drain holes. Again, I am looking for ideas???????

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  4. pete scalia

    pete scalia LawnSite Senior Member
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    Let me contact HPL and I'll get back to you on that.
     
  5. Eden Lights

    Eden Lights LawnSite Senior Member
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    HPL, Pete, Who ever has any ideas? I just have always wondered why a fully shrouded fixture can't be made less expensive?
     
  6. pete scalia

    pete scalia LawnSite Senior Member
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    If you look closely at the bottom of the picture there is clearly an image of a bare female buttocks. I am not offended but the sensors may want to take a close look at it and do with it what they deem appropriate.
    Thank you.
     
  7. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
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    My take on the above photo is that it is neither a Sycamore nor a London Plane.

    Now, if in the future you should encounter either tree, you'll soon find it problematic as far as cable is concerned. In short, they eat it, and very quickly. They have fast healing bark, and wounds from staples, nails or screws get swallowed up in a matter of months.

    A landscape designer and I came up with a solution, using copper pipe as conduit, and tying the pipe loosely to the trunk with several wraps of jute twine.

    They'll have to be retied in a couple of years, but so what? That's easy and can be part of a re-lamping/ maintenance visit. It's in an Asian themed garden so there are things like bamboo fencing tied with jute too.

    So, in a young tree, maybe copper pipe if the fixtures are copper too, and they'll age gracefully together.

    We thought about using a piece of timber bamboo too, but drilling through the segments from one end to the other looked daunting, and the copper bends to the trunk angle.
     
  8. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Now you're really sounding like HPL. Are you his evil twin, or is he yours? Or should we just call you Sybil? :confused:
     
  9. pete scalia

    pete scalia LawnSite Senior Member
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    If not a sycamore than what is it?

    A rigid copper pipe up the back of an immature tree? And that is unobtrusive? Excuse me but I disagree.
     
  10. Landscape Illuminating

    Landscape Illuminating LawnSite Member
    from Maine
    Posts: 84

    I'm not sure about you guys, but I really don't think the OP actually meant he was going to mount lighting in the tree itself. I'm assuming by the fixtures he has listed that he intends to light the tree from the ground and not use tree lights. Oh, and no I don't have any suggestions as far as affordable alternatives to those fixtures. :)

    -LI
     

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