Guys who bag grass

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Mowerboy04, Feb 26, 2010.

  1. Roger

    Roger LawnSite Fanatic
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    I believe that most of my customers wouldn't know what the question meant. In discussions from time to time, if the topic arises, it is clear they have no idea, nor do they care, what is done. Oh yes, there is a small percentage who understand, but it is a very small percentage.

    The important question to my residential customers, "Does the job look good?" How that goal is accomplished is up to me. Much earlier in my life as an LCO, I got all bunched up about the topic. I tried to explain, get permissions, etc. That mentality is all gone now.

    As I've been doing this work for many years now, it is clearer and clearer that nearly all of them just don't know, nor do they care. I never mention one word in my offer letters or quotations about clipping management. I do what is necessary to meet the standard I believe is right for the property, for the customer, and for me. The second item is what is important -- being sure to understand what the customer expects. However, I am also very concerned about what result I leave when I drive away - every finished job is my marketing brochure for other potential clients. I may choose to do more work than the client expects. That is my choice, for the benefit of my reputation.
     
  2. THC

    THC LawnSite Silver Member
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    I guess I was thinking of backdragging and using a pull plow on small residential driveways. I want to get a plow next winter because I'm sick of snowblower/shovel combo. Last time I checked out plows, 6-8 years ago, back dragging was a pipe dream. But the last couple years I've saw more and more plows back dragging or using a pull plow and doing a really good job.
     
  3. dishboy

    dishboy LawnSite Platinum Member
    from zone 6
    Posts: 4,125

    Smart man.

    This is what I have found. Clients are reluctant to have A LAWN mulched because most LCO's do not know how to manage N. Most LCO's are also clueless when it comes to mulching deck design. A converted side discharge deck will not cut it unless heavily modified. If the customer does not see any clippings or leaf debris when you pull away they will they will be glad you are mulching as it is better for the soil/turf.
     
  4. yardguy28

    yardguy28 LawnSite Platinum Member
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    should also depend on how much the client is paying you. thats why i ask thos kind of questions. i'm gonna charge more for bagging a lawn than i will to side discharge it. if all the client will pay for is discharge even when some weeks it would need bagging due to excessive rain and growth thats all they get is discharge. i might run over the front twice or bag the front so i make a good impression for the rest of the neighborhood and maybe get some more business but i'm not gonna bag the whole lawn each and every time for the discharge price.

    join my discussion in the off topic forum about blades.

    i've been doing snow removal with my snow blower for 3 winters now. i've been looking at blades recently and am considering one for next winter.

    problem is my truck is only rear wheel drive. i've been told i can run a rear plow no problem, even got a quote from a company around here for a rear plow. i've also been wondering if my truck would support one of the compact truck/SUV blades. it sounds like it should.

    i'm running an 04 half ton chevy silverado. we usually see amounts of not much more than 4 inches each time it snows. once or twice a season we might see more. i do residential driveways only. i would think i could support one of the smaller blades or a rear blade for sure.
     
  5. dtford

    dtford LawnSite Member
    from 02338
    Posts: 80

    We run walkers, and bag them all. We have retrofitted our trailers with 2 gates on the front so we can back our mowers up into the dump Truck and dump. I'm too old to be lifting barrels.
     
  6. yardguy28

    yardguy28 LawnSite Platinum Member
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    why not just purchase the lift for the walkers to back right up to the truck and dump???
     
  7. DLCS

    DLCS LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I've never owned a Walker but if I did that high lift attachment would be ordered with the machine. I never understood why the Walker guys dump the hopper on a tarp or in a barrel. That lift attachment is the best part of the Walker mower, imo. I want to build something like that for a ztr, kinda how JD had the highlift dump for the old 400 series tractors. It would be the cats arse.
     
  8. yardguy28

    yardguy28 LawnSite Platinum Member
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    it definitly would be the way to go. especially if you have an enclosed trailer. i know a lot of the guys that have open trailers just use the front part of the trailer to dump the grass from the walker but that takes up space on the trailer.

    the only time i ever dump grass in a barrel is when i'm in the back yards. i have 55 gallon drums i've cut in half. i can dump my grass catcher from the 52" 2 maybe 3 times before i need to empty the drum. in the front yards i just run the catcher to the truck.
     
  9. jasontimm

    jasontimm LawnSite Senior Member
    from MN
    Posts: 362

    You guys should look at the Hiniker "C" plow, ive had one for 5 years, and i dont think i could live without it, you cant beat it when it comes to back dragging.........now back to multch or not to multch....
     
  10. jasontimm

    jasontimm LawnSite Senior Member
    from MN
    Posts: 362

    I have a question...how well of a job will you do when multching thick, sometimes damp bluegrass, with a 1 to 1.5 inch cut, i love the thought of multching, but have feared clumping with this type of turf condition. I'd hate to spend the $350 dollars for a mutch kit for my grasshopper diesel if it didnt look perfect in the end. input?
     

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