GVWR of f350 f250 and 2500 cummins dodge

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by CrewCutEnterprises, Mar 23, 2005.

  1. CrewCutEnterprises

    CrewCutEnterprises LawnSite Senior Member
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    ok guys.

    I have a 250 99 gaser with a dump insert and the GVWR is 8800 lbs, well i regularly overload it by about 1000 lbs with mulch loads in the spring

    I was looking at a f350 diesel

    and a 2500

    Does any one know the GVWR of either of these??

    any other factors affect it?>
     
  2. Smalltimer1

    Smalltimer1 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    The new '05 F-350 with the V-10 and automatic has a payload of 5800lbs. The diesel F-350 has a payload of 5700lbs.
     
  3. CrewCutEnterprises

    CrewCutEnterprises LawnSite Senior Member
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    Thanks,

    any idea on the diesels for 99 and 00 I was looking into those.

    Thanks alot though
     
  4. Eclipse

    Eclipse LawnSite Bronze Member
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    The 1999 and 2000 Dodge 2500 had a GWWR of 8800 lbs. If you have a 3500 GVWR is 10,500, and a 3500 Cab & Chassis is 15,000.

    The Payload is an irrevelant number to a certain extent. You still cannot legally go over your GVWR.

    For example: A Dodge Ram Cummins 2500, regular cab 4x4, weighs around 6500lbs. Add to that a driver, some tools, and a full tank of fuel and you are aproaching 7000lbs making your legal payload only 1,800lbs.
     
  5. Smalltimer1

    Smalltimer1 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Depends which state you're in. In some states you can register and tag your truck higher than your GVW/GCW and still be legal.
     
  6. Eclipse

    Eclipse LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Legal in the state as far as tags/registrations goes or legal in a Supreme Courthouse because you are exceeding the limits set forth by the manufacturer??????
     
  7. lawncare3

    lawncare3 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I think my 05 ram has 8800 GVW with a payload of 2750#
     
  8. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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    Some people get in such a panic over legal payload its funny but you see people trying to pull a trailer that is way too heavy for the tow vehical and think nothing of it.

    As for a 3/4 ton you can pretty much class the payload at max 2500lbs same goes with a srw 1 ton which is the exact same as a 250 but on paper it has a "higher gvw".

    1 ton duallys is what is the load carrying trucks mainly the cab and chassis versions which are heavier than a dually P/U.

    If you want true load carrying capacity then you have to go to F-450 and F-550 trucks that can carry a decent load ie 4 ton.

    The biggest concern you should have is braking power if the truck can't stop with the load you shouldn't be carrying it. You can have a truck with heavy suspension etc and it can pack a big load but its got worthless brakes the truck is useless. Its like driving a 1/2 ton P/U with beefed up springs sure it can pack 2000lbs but it can't stop with that load.

    Last thing to leave with ya never beleive the manufacturers listed payload ratings for the trucks. You need the real world ratings which is what your real tare weight is then subtact it from your gvw to get your legal payload.

    If you keep your trucks tare weight down so that means not adding a bunch of goop to the truck like 400lb bumpers etc.

    In this area you can increase you gvw up to what ever within reason but once the trucks licensed gvw gets above 12,000lbs its a commercial truck so you need to follow some of the commercial truck rules.

    So a F-450 with a 15,000lb gvw has the same licensing and rules/regs as a 5 ton truck with a gvw of 35,000lbs. One exception is a 450 doesn't have to stick to truck routes but it does legally have to stop at the scales.

    If your looking for a dump truck you should consider minimum 1 ton dually but a prefered truck would be a F-450. A srw truck will never beable to carry a decent load your biggest limit is tire capacity.
     
  9. Smalltimer1

    Smalltimer1 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Both, manufacturer's specs are recommended....not required.
     
  10. Eclipse

    Eclipse LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I'm not so certain I would trust your comments in regards to Michigan laws, but perhaps in other states that may be the case.
     

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