The more nasty emails I get bringing up these things, the more I will bring them up. If you want the topic to go away, ignore it. I'm just looking to the chaining "explosion" that is going to happen with LED's, and how it will change our wiring configurations. You can ignore the need for changes, and you can ignore the economic signs of bad times, and you can just let your business die a slow, fading death. I'm trying to adapt and survive and maintain my vision at the same time. I have to get a day job to pay the bills, and I plan to keep some coal in the stove for my business, and use the down time to study the crap out of all options, future trends, market changes, technology changes, tiki torches, putting greens, cutting lawns, whatever I got to study, whatever I got to do. That, and the fact that I bore easily, will take me to interesting directions of thought. Who cares if nine of my ideas can be argued out of, if the tenth brings success, refinement, improvement, whatever. You can't be afraid of exploring what seems to be bad or crazy ideas. They are just ideas.