Has any one heard that ZTRs are only good for flat ground?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by rjh4758, May 16, 2010.

  1. rjh4758

    rjh4758 LawnSite Member
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    Friend of mine told me they had talked to a dealer about a ZTR. They explained that the had a hill in the front and back yard. The dealer told them flat out not to buy a ZTR to stick with a rider. I never heard of anything so dumb. I have mowed some steep stuff with my ZTR that I know would have rolled a rider as I have rolled riders on hills before.
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  2. huh, some of the darndest thing you here.
     
  3. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
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    Maybe the dealer was trying to put it to your friend in a mild way.
     
  4. 360ci

    360ci LawnSite Senior Member
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    Strange. ZTR's have a much lower center of gravity than small riding tractors. My old JD Tractor succumbed to metal fatigue after a long life, but I wouldn't dare use it on some steeper hills. Not necessarily for fear of rolling over, but for fear of not having adequate traction to get it back up the hill (especially if there's a fence at the bottom!).

    For smaller areas (mostly residential now) if someone has a steep hill at 30 degrees or greater, I have a lawnmower deck with an engine that doesn't require an operator presence bar to keep it running, so I removed the handles, attached a rope to pull it up and down steeper hills and it works great for those types of areas. Total weight with an aluminum deck is about 40lbs, so its essentially a one hand operation. It's not the safest way to cut hills of course, but it does the job and you don't have to worry about rolling a mower over, or saying 'no, can't cut that' to a customer.
     
  5. Big C

    Big C LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I don't know why this is so strange....in my Exmark owners manual it states that the mower may roll over if used on inclines greater than 15 degrees.
     
  6. 360ci

    360ci LawnSite Senior Member
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    In a way I don't think it is. It's just to protect them against liability for people who don't know any better. More importantly, I think it's more in line with operator size. A 150lb operator will have a lower center of gravity on the machine than a 300lb operator. On a 1000lb machine, that's quite a difference.
     
  7. yardguy28

    yardguy28 LawnSite Platinum Member
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    i'd rather roll a ZTR than a garden tractor. ZTR's have ROPS
     
  8. flatlander42

    flatlander42 LawnSite Silver Member
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    some do....my Navigator and walker don't.....I must say that my walkerB handles hills perty good. Navigator, not so much.
     
  9. flatlander42

    flatlander42 LawnSite Silver Member
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    What kinda of dealer was this? Maybe they are not any good with hills. Also, what kind of tractor did he tell him to go with?
     
  10. robertsturf

    robertsturf LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Its ironic that this subject came up. Last Friday here in Kansas City a guy rolled an Exmark off a small retaining wall and into Brush Creek and landed upside down. He died in 3' of water. It only took them about 3 minutes to roll the Z over, a policeman witnessed the accident and jumped right in with 3 other guys. I was sick over the guy losing his life. I realize that in any situation someone could get killed in a accident but that is one of the main reasons we us stand-on type mowers. We used to have a Z but I scared myself to death 2 times on it and sold it after a year.
     

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