Has the window for fall seeding come to an end?

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by forgop, Oct 14, 2010.

  1. forgop

    forgop LawnSite Member
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    Anyone have a good rule of thumb as far as to whether I've put down about all the seed I can for the year in Indianapolis? Our highs recently and over the next 10 days are averaging upper 60's to low 70's and the lows appear to be mid-upper 40's for the most part. I've already put a good bit down, but may go through with another hellacious round to get some thin spots covered before the year is up. Thanks!
     
  2. atasteofnature

    atasteofnature LawnSite Senior Member
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    I will try to help out a little bit. Optimum temperature for shoot growth is 60-75F and Optimum soil temp. for root growth is 50-65F. I know the nights are getting cooler but the days are warming up quite nicely. A good starter fertilizer with a good irrigation program will help it along. You might also think of mulch (straw) this will help hold water in our drought situation in the state plus it will help regulate the temperatures from fluctuating up and down so much. I hope this helps out a little.
     
  3. scoop

    scoop LawnSite Member
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    When it's to cold to smoke a good cigar outside:) JK. They will let any one on this board. I'm not a pro by any means but it is a little late in the season. I aerated and over-seeded on Sept 17 and maybe should have done it a week sooner. Although I am a little further north.
     
  4. grassman177

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    it is all about the long range forcast and staying in those temps mentioned. with serious good irrigation to not let it dry out it will germinate and make it, but be warned without irrigation systems no one will keep it wet enough to get it started well to make it ok through late fall and heavy frosts etc. better at that point to either do it very late as a dormant seeding or just wait till spring.
     
  5. atasteofnature

    atasteofnature LawnSite Senior Member
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    to add on to Scoop, the optimum window is Aug. 15-Sept. 15, but also famous words from my turf science professor "It Depends". There are rules of thumb but each situation is different. There is also what they call dormant seeding as well, which leaves the seed on top of soils which is average at best.
     
  6. forgop

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    You joke, but around 10:00 or so I retired back in to the house last night after smoking a couple of nice cigars. Once it hits that 55 degree mark with a breeze, I'm not that dedicated after that.
     
  7. forgop

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    There was no way I was seeding here during that period as we still had a LOT of days in September with 90+ degree weather. I don't think I got any seed out until maybe around September 20th or so.
     
  8. DA Quality Lawn & YS

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    True - this year (only) you could have seeded later than the average year. We just went through a stretch of 10+ days in the 70's and 80's. If you would have seeded at the beginning of that stretch, then watered, I think the new grass would have been just peachy.
     
  9. scoop

    scoop LawnSite Member
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    Yeah it's not so bad if your smoking a "Live" cigar (if you can figure out what end to light) you can just toss it if it's to cold out.
     
  10. forgop

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    I've gone through my front yard twice already in the past 3 weeks and watered it pretty heavily. It's coming in, but still has a good bit to go for that thick coverage. I lost most of it in august as we were on vacation, had a tiny rain of some sort, with 15 or so conseutive days over 90. It was almost completely burnt to a crisp when I got back.
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