I just ordered some clips from Holiday LiteSource here in TX. There were about 1/3rd the price of the sold out HBL clips. I'll let you know how good they are when they arrive. Last year I ordered some All in One clips that turned out to be All in One Clips Plus. They were a piece of crap. I have about 900 of the plus clips headed to the trash can. I think the plus clips came from Christmas Lights Ect. I'll never buy from them again.