help with a bid please

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by cade03, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. cade03

    cade03 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 7

    the age old question, i know youve heard it before, but please help. i have a potential new client. they want their 232 acre property to be bid by the acre, per cut. 42 cuts per year. this is a rental subdivision. 630 houses, all rentals. area to be maintained includes all houses, streets, curbs, beds, playgrounds, etc. i have not bid anything like this before. houses average about 5000 sq ft of turf. i know that i could give a two page description and it probably wouldnt be enough for you guys/gals to help with a firm estimate, but please help. my time is very short( meeting in the AM) have any of you ever bid on a large property like this by the acre before and what would you recommend that price point to be? thanks in advance. i am new to this site but i hope to be a regular supporter.
  2. MOturkey

    MOturkey LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,757

    Way out of my league, and, no disrespect intended, but probably yours also if you have to ask. You could figure what you would need to have for each individual property, then multiply by 630, then add for common areas, but something tells me, just from what i read on this site, that the winning bid will be far less than this number. Good luck.
  3. cade03

    cade03 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 7

    thanks for the response. i agree, big job!!! i am currently working on the same site taking care of about 200 houses on a two week schedule. they are being consolidated and i have the inside track for the whole deal( so i think ;)) ive been doing these houses on a per cut price for 5 years now. its just very hard to figure the common areas by the acre. yes i could fugure the houses that way because they are all very similar. just a little out of my comfort zone but thats not gonna stop me from trying. just wondering if anyone out there has had experience with this type of bud? thx
  4. ELS LLC

    ELS LLC LawnSite Member
    Posts: 43

    Personally triple the price your charging for the 200 houses plus extra for the common areas and presto! We had a HOA similar to that and I noticed way to many cheifs and not enogh indians. Get the contract tight. Half way into the season the HOA voted on bagging all the grass on the whole property! On top of that we started getting calls wanting different heights on different lawns! My guys hated even being on the property! On top of that they are rentals and we had to deal with toys, dogs, pain in the butt. I opted out the second season and now the company is doing it for half of our price!
  5. LibertyFarmLandscaping

    LibertyFarmLandscaping LawnSite Bronze Member
    from NE TX
    Posts: 1,065

    I agree with the other poster. Just charge the same per unit as what you currently charge for the 200. If it's hard to get an idea of the size of the common areas just by looking, take a measuring wheel with you and measure the actual size of the areas then estimate the time it will take with the trimming involved. On something that large you could loose your shirt big time by getting in too big of a rush overlooking what all is involved. Although I never have done a job this big I did have a 75 acre cemetary on a 3 year contract at one time.
  6. TheGoat

    TheGoat LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 273

    if it were my lawn service I would bid it at 45/acre/cut
  7. cade03

    cade03 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 7

    thanks for the responses. actually helped abit. good day to all and good luck
  8. Bogielski

    Bogielski LawnSite Member
    Posts: 72

    I would estimate by the house, approx 35 - 40 per home. I would through in the playgrounds and common areas for free due the sheer volume of money. @35 per home your looking at $22,050.00 x 42 cuts = $926,100.00
  9. ALC-GregH

    ALC-GregH LawnSite Fanatic
    from PA
    Posts: 7,053

    They would laugh you right out of the office at prices like that.
  10. Bogielski

    Bogielski LawnSite Member
    Posts: 72

    consider this, they are charging rent @ 800 - 1000 per month X 630 homes. Say they are all $1000.00 per home for rent per month = 630,000 per month X 12 =7,560,000.00 per year. Thats not a bad price considering the amount they are taking in.

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