Help with a tree/shrub farm

Discussion in 'Nurseries and Growers' started by adavenp4, Aug 7, 2006.

  1. adavenp4

    adavenp4 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 8

    Hey,

    I am the owner of Tri-Scapes Landscaping and I am going to start a tree farm on a few acres of farmland that I own. I was going to see if anyone had any help in this field and could help me out in it. I was wondering if Irrigation is needed and so on. I am looking right now to start with small landscape tree like red buds, dogwoods, maples, boxwoods, Thuja Giants, and some others. I am out of East TN and could use any help possible.

    Thanks

    Andrew
     
  2. treedoc1

    treedoc1 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 319

    West to McMinville, nursery capital of your state. All your questions will be answered.
     
  3. jd boy

    jd boy LawnSite Member
    from nw ohio
    Posts: 179

    I am in the process of doing the same. I think pot in pot is the way to go
     
  4. cancan

    cancan LawnSite Member
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    every method of nursery production has its in's and out's....pot in pot is no different....

    research is your best tool....do it until your blue in the face. then take a break and do some more!

    the new root control products out now are pretty darn good...rootmaker being the original. i grow in the ground and dig B&B...another area overlooked is logistics and the basic buisness plan....nursery buisness isnt an easy one by any means...a good book to help clear up any questions about the buisness end is "so you want to start a nursery" lots of often overlooked info in there.....different university websites can offer alot of info on plant culture info ( oregon, ncu , .....)

    im in an experimentation mode right now...i been going for 6 years now and im barely started, and definatly not done researching...

    one of the biggest things to remeber is keep an open mind...its easy to become biased about plants and culture and not see yourself going in an unproductive direction...... i could type for days so i'll leave it here.

    Good luck!
     
  5. WINTER 3

    WINTER 3 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 30

    I have also had thoughts along those same lines. I get a catalog from the American Nurseryman. It has books, videos and other stuff in it. I bought a book on running a nursery. I think a book like that will help you. I have since reading the book decided to focus on what I do best, and continue to by my plant stock.

    Bristol has some real nice landscaping & country side. I go to the nascar races every spring & fall. We come in the back way, off exit 17. Two lane road with big houses.

    let me know if I can help
    Dave
     
  6. 1PRO

    1PRO LawnSite Member
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    I would like to know any nurserys that you buy from phone numbers or web sites i need a good grower i started a garden center and most supplers around me their prices are too high for resale..also i'm growing some small plant stock at my A-1 zoned property.
     
  7. treedoc1

    treedoc1 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 319

    Go to the Mid Atlantic Nurseryman's trade show in January in Baltimore. It is one of the largest and busiest shows of the year.
    The entire convention center is filled with dozens of growers that deliver to the area you are in. Everyone will be ready to sell to you and discuss their terms and minimums.
     
  8. try WWW.TNNURSERY.com you can find about anything.
     
  9. Lawnworks

    Lawnworks LawnSite Fanatic
    from usa
    Posts: 5,407

    Is anybody doing field grown trees? If so, what is the general process? When buying land, is a necessity to have a pond or creek? or can a well support the irrigation?
     
  10. huh

    huh LawnSite Senior Member
    from Lubbock
    Posts: 251

    ponds can be good, but they have issues especially with clogged emitters on drip....even with filters pond water breeds scum which can clog things

    you need to know the requirements of your nursery and the SUSTAINABLE gallons per hour of a well to know that answer

    with a tree farm on 10' rows and 4' spacing on the trees you would have 1089 emitters with 1 per tree

    43,560 sqft/acre / 10' row spacing / 4' between trees = 1089 trees per acre

    say your drip gives .25 gallons per hour so you need a well to flow AT LEAST 272.25 GPH to come close to meeting the requirements of your drip for 1 acre

    then you need to figure how long each day you will need to run it......if even needed daily......then look at other wells in the area and talk to drillers and see if your water table can support those requirements on a daily basis......you can sink a 12" well and put a huge pump in it....but if you pump it dry in a day what do you have.....nothing!

    as for a pond you also need to know if it will last through the dry times and how often it is replenished......ponds can be good if you have several small wells that flow low but steady.....you can run them into the pond 24X7 then pull hard from the pond as needed with a surface pump to water the crop

    to know how a pond will replinish from surface run off you need to know the area (in acres or sqft) that will run into the pond (its drainage basin) then know a bit about the soil type and the cover crop and use that with avg. annual rain to figure out runoff.....your soil conservation officer can help with that and sometimes they will even help with planning and cost for an engineered pond....provided is can be shown to decrease runoff and it is built to their specs

    and you need to be sure the pond will be full during dry times as well as wet....after all it is dry times you need to pull from it


    also with a creek in most states you would need a permit and to establish water rights to pull from a flowing body of water
    in some states you can not even capture the runoff from your own land (Colorado) as it has already been claimed by others....in Texas you can....but you can not pull from a lake or a stream that leaves your property with out water rights....you can how ever build a pond to catch runoff and use it if the runoff is caught before the actual head of the waterway.....easier to figure out than it sounds....in most parts of Texas you can still sink a well and pump to your hearts content.....in most other states it is more requlated than that

    :)
     

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