Help With Parents

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by jhawk71, May 12, 2002.

  1. jhawk71

    jhawk71 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 184

    I Need help convincing my parents to let me get a 36 belt drive. I have a pretty good buisness going and wanted to upgrade, although they are still a little fishy about it. They think I should wait another year. My cousin who has like 100 some odd customers said that i would be able to handle one and that i should get it. What are somethings that i could point out to my parents to get them on my side?
    Any help wanted
    Jhawk71
     
  2. Lawn-Scapes

    Lawn-Scapes LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,810

    What have you already discussed with them? What are their reasons for the wait?

    How many and how large are the accounts? What are you using now?

    edit: What are you doing up so late???
     
  3. 2 man crew

    2 man crew LawnSite Senior Member
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    I take it you want your parents to pay for some, or all of the new mower.
    If so you should try to get in the habit of doing things without help from your parents even if it means you will have to wait longer to get a new mower.
    It will make things a lot easier for you in the long run. You wonÂ’t need to worry about who thinks what is fishy and how long you should wait for something.
    A little more info on your situation would be helpful.
     
  4. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,067

    36 inch will increase productivity by alot. I have 5 new jobs this year which is great, but it's tough to schedule them for me because I've been so busy with other things and am not having a whole lot of time to do them. I am getting through it though. My point is that if I had a mower that I could get on all my regular residential lawns but will cut down mowing time by like half, that would be great! I could do what takes me 15 hours and cut it down to like 7, because I have 2 that I can't do any faster-already got a mower that covers them lawns. So just buy one. Or use one, let them figure out how fast you can really go on them and prove to them what kind of mower it really is. When I was looking at buying my Proline (now known as Groundmaster 120) my dad was skeptical that it would be a good choice. Well, the price was right ($1,000, can you believe that?!) and now I have 2 jobs that I can use it on. I've got a condo complex that I do in an hour and 15 mins and get $45, not bad for me! You'll find that you can do more faster and have time for shcool (I hope you go to school?) and other things of the sort. High school is a P.I.T.A if you ask me. I didn't have homework for a while and was in the duldrums now they're loading us up. Makes it tough to do business. I've got a 20-30 hour landscape clean up job to do in the next couple of weeks plus the weekly mows. Its going to be tough, but I'll make it. Can't deny $$$! Rock on!
     
  5. Esby33

    Esby33 LawnSite Member
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    Will the 10-speed huffy pull that on a trailer? :D OK, just kidding, but yeah-it will deffinately increase your productivity. Who's buying this machine? If its you, then isn't it your decision?
     
  6. Rooster

    Rooster LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 460

    jhawk71,
    Checking your profile and seeing your age, if as others have posted your parents are helping you with the purchase, or even if you have earned all the money yourself consider:

    Sitting down with both your parents, explain to them the time it takes to mow your accounts now. Then figure out with a larger cutting width mower how much time you could save, therefore get more accounts etc.

    Hope this helps, lets us know how it turns out!

    Good Luck!!!

    Rick
     
  7. jeffex

    jeffex LawnSite Bronze Member
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    create a business plan and submit it to your parents for approval . Include a payment schedule of paying them back the $2500 or so you will ned to get a 36 belt drive. x amount of $ per month in the months you are cutting. show them on paper how your productivity will increase. 1hr with the 21" per lawn vs 40 min with the wb. Find someone to bring thier walk behind over to your house and show your parents you can handle it. Wear steel toed boots and use all safety equipment on your wb including the deflecter. I'm a parent too and I wish my son were as eager as you. He is 13 and can handle our 48'" toros. He does a great job when I can get him to help. Good luck w/ parents They just dont want you to get hurt so show them you ARE safe and wear eye protection and hearing protection. Sign a promisory note for the loan with them for the mower.
     
  8. jhawk71

    jhawk71 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 184

    Thanx guys
    I have around ten customers and am really busy in school and sports so i needed something to get my mowing done faster. Right now i have a commercial 21" toro, most of my accounts take about an hour with everything. I do it all by myself. Although i have 1 customer that takes me about an hour and a half to 2 hours. I t always seems that the wont stop growing i cut it every 4 days. And with the rain we have had nostop 4 days I m really far behind. Also i will be paying for it bymyself. Money from previous years. I've have told them about what my cousin has said and what you guys have said in previous threads. They just think i should wait another year to see then if i am still serious about it. Well i mean this is my third year. Also they think in the fall when school starts back up i wont be able to keep the lawns in good shape and get good grades. i get all a's now and keep all the lawns in good shape in the heart of growing season. And also i told them that in the fall it will start not to grow as much. Another things is i am getting like a new customer every week for the last week or so (people putting it off when it 10" tall) and my mom just tthink i have to many and should say no to any more. I mean thats money i would be lossing out on. Im pretty sure that my dad will let me get he says it is up to me, but my mom has the final word in on it so tonight i will try and i will probally go demo it tomorow and if they say yes tonight i will buy it tomorowI do a pretty nice job on my lawns because i really dont have that many. I am really serious about htis and want to pick up another 5 -10 customers next year if i could. THere are just so many lawn companys out there its hard getting new customers when you cant drive cross town to mow a yard. Well if you could give me anymore things to point out to then tonight orr any other times i would appreciate it.
    Thanx
    Jahwk71
     
  9. Toroguy

    Toroguy LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,075

    Many good points by everyone.

    You will learn more life/business lessons with your mowing operation/venture in one year, than most of your classmates will learn in their lfetime.

    In Rich Dad Poor Dad, Kiyosaki made a great analogy...

    "Why climb the corporate ladder, when you can own the ladder".

    ...something like that?

    Dont fall into the instant gratification trap. Earn your way to the top.
     
  10. grassyfras

    grassyfras LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,472

    Maybe what you should do is raise your prices and count on loosing a few customers alowing u more time for school and sports but still making the same or more amount of money. Sometimes I think I should of done that before I got my 36".
     

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