help with paver steps

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by arosewag, Jun 3, 2005.

  1. arosewag

    arosewag LawnSite Member
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    I need help designing and pricing a paver staircase. We're talking a distance of 43' with a rise of 8'8". I'll try and attach photos.

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  2. Rex Mann

    Rex Mann LawnSite Senior Member
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    Using a 7-inch rise for each step you will need 14-15 steps. I would design it to fit in with the existing hillside. At the top by the driveway you will have steps closer together. Some may not even have landings. As you get closer to the bottom where it flattens out you'll have a landing area between steps. The landing area is how you will be loosing your run of the hillside.

    If you want to keep all the landings the same then you'll have to build returns and reconfigure the hillside. This is not for the novice installer.

    Good luck with your steps.

    Rex

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  3. neversatisfiedj

    neversatisfiedj LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Are you going to use the "pedistal method" ?
     
  4. arosewag

    arosewag LawnSite Member
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    I'm not sure if I should use the pedestal method or cut in a base for step. Any suggestions?

    Rex...what do you mean by build a return?

    Thanks for your replies

    Andy
     
  5. Rex Mann

    Rex Mann LawnSite Senior Member
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    Building a return is simply building a retaining wall on the sides of the steps. The wall returns from the corner back to each step. Returns can be set back or vertical, depends on the design and on the versatility of the materials. Below is picture of a job we did using Pisa 2 from Unilock. These steps have returns.

    Peace,

    Rex

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  6. arosewag

    arosewag LawnSite Member
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    Rex
    Ok, that's what I had pictured in my head. Looks great, though I think it may be best If I just try to stay with the natural slope.

    Do you use the pedestal method?
     
  7. neversatisfiedj

    neversatisfiedj LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I use pedistal method. Don't have to worry about the steps going anywhere.
    Look at your manufacturer specs. I use versa-lok alot.
     
  8. arosewag

    arosewag LawnSite Member
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    never...
    How's business in hampstead. I was just up there this past weekend. Played a round at Piney Branch.

    How are you pricing steps? Around here guys are charging anywhere from 8 to 18 for pavers and 25 to 80 for walls. I don't want to get into the habit of pricing by the square foot, But it gives you an idea of where you should be.


    Andy
     
  9. neversatisfiedj

    neversatisfiedj LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I've had one job in Westminster so far this year . Eveything else in surrounding counties and getting alot now in the city. I took alot of jobs this year where access for equip. was hard so I priced them accordingly. Ballpark 30-35 a square face foot for versa-lok walls. I priced some steps a couple of weeks ago at 9300.00 40 foot run and 9 foot rise using versa-lok with pedistal method and 3 landings. Pavers I do for 10 a square plus material.
     
  10. arosewag

    arosewag LawnSite Member
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    That seams reasonable. Where are you getting your versalock materials? Do they have pavers to match?
     

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