Hiring 1st employee on payroll

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by greeneyes, Jun 14, 2006.

  1. greeneyes

    greeneyes LawnSite Member
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    This is our 3rd season in business together. Me & my partner do mowing & landscaping. My partner was mowing & I was landscaping 2-3 yrs before (self-employeed). Decided to combine, & so far, really good. We're swamped with work. Customers all wanted both services so made sense. Now were so backlogged need to hire help. I've got a kid (17 yrs old) son of a friend who has used all of the equipment that we use. (Parent's actually sold us their 48" walk behind, because they bought a new z-turn rider.) He is unusually responsible for that age and has knowledge of all of the equipment. I called our insurer today about workman's comp and thought I'd had it covered. But now I'm wondering, he's under 18??? Maybe, I should just have him landscape and not mow. What to do?? Help!
     
  2. ShieldsLandscaping

    ShieldsLandscaping LawnSite Member
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    Well why dont u pay him under the table? Everyone arround where I live hires like 17 and 18 and 16 yr olds all under the table.

    PS I am 17 (18 at the end of the summer) and run a business with almost 60 accounts a zturn rider and I do everything walls, trees etc. So at 17 I think he will do well. As long as you got gen. liablity for your business so incase he sends a rock through a window (has happpened sadly) YOU are covered.
     
  3. deereman

    deereman LawnSite Senior Member
    from USA
    Posts: 518

    ???????????????????????????????????????????? Okeedokee!
     
  4. greeneyes

    greeneyes LawnSite Member
    Posts: 27

    How do you run a legit business & pay under the table? My customer's pay by check & I have to charge sales tax for mowing. I can't afford to pay cash & then not write off the costs. I know alot of what my partner did before our partnership was UTT, but I don't wan't to do that now. I, personally, have too much to loose.
     
  5. greeneyes

    greeneyes LawnSite Member
    Posts: 27

    Okay, maybe I'm too parinoid?? Does everyone pay under the table? I have liablility. Told I need workmen's comp for employees. I don't want to deal with major crap when there's an accident. They do happen! I've dealt with it in real life. I don't want to have to deal with it in business. Just asking for suggestions. Thanks. I'm new to posting, but have been reading for a while.
     
  6. greeneyes

    greeneyes LawnSite Member
    Posts: 27

    How do you run a legit business & pay under the table? My customer's pay by check & I have to charge sales tax for mowing. I can't afford to pay cash & then not write off the costs. I know alot of what my partner did before our partnership was UTT, but I don't wan't to do that now. I, personally, have too much to loose.
     
  7. carcrz

    carcrz LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,085

    You need WC if you have 3 or more employees / owners. Subcontractors do not count if they are using their own equipment & or services.
     
  8. TMlawncare

    TMlawncare LawnSite Bronze Member
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    In Missouri if you have more then 5 employees you have to have workman's comp. ins.
     
  9. Brianslawn

    Brianslawn LawnSite Silver Member
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    ps. please dont report me to the state.


    btw. AR. 18. 21 to drive truck. workers comp required, PERIOD.

    ps. i wont report you to the state, i promise. :waving:
     
  10. yrdandgardenhandyman

    yrdandgardenhandyman LawnSite Senior Member
    from midwest
    Posts: 953



    Aw, but the "state" reads this forum. You are screwed.
     

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