For those of you that have HOAs and Apartment complexes how do you figure out how much to come out with on a bid? I Have a few commercial and mostly residential complexes that I make decent money on but when I look at HOA's that are 50+ communities I am way over bidding. I have bid 4 so far this year and have been 20-30 thousand over what the current LCO is bidding. Same with the Apartment complexes that are 100 unit with small back yards. Case in point. I know that the HOA fees of this up coming bid is 87 a month. It is a 59 unit complex with about a 3/4 acre common area. Of the 59 units there are 49 with small back yards and small front yards. There is a lot of edging and this is where I am having the problem. I am solo and figure this to take me 2 days + at 8 hours a day. They also include fert, sprinkler repairs(minor) and Light bulb replacement of at least 108 light bulbs. It also includes the low voltage lighting. Aeration is eoy and is bid seperatly along with over seed. I know my operating costs are between 16 and 19 an hour pending on cost of fuel at time of calculation (last year averaged 19.23 and hour operating costs). Now with all of this I am coming up with a 50 grand + a year price tag. Knowing the HOA money is only 61596.00 for the year. Here is my short and to the point questions: 1. Do you bid by the day (say you want 300 a day - operating costs) Or 2. By the job. (59 units (normally 20 apiece seperate) + common grounds and divide it by the times you show up? I would really like driving up and knowing I am not having windsheild time all day. This would be a bonus. Oh by the way this is for 41 cuts a year. I am really having a hard time finding that the current LCO is making that much money off of it, How ever he has dang near pleaded with this association to keep him on. This is up for bid every 2 years and that is being the reason it is up for bid now.