Honda HHT25 SLTA or Husqvarna 224L?

Discussion in 'Homeowner Assistance Forum' started by Nutsedge, Nov 6, 2012.

  1. chuacro

    chuacro LawnSite Senior Member
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    I bought a Husky 223 5 years ago and use it on 25 lawns a week. I had to replace a $10 part on the pull assembly this year and runs like new. I think it is the best residential trimmer before going commercial out there.
     
  2. dboyd351

    dboyd351 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    That's all great in theory, but maybe you should ask why there are NO commercial operators using 4 strokes.
     
  3. IS500Z

    IS500Z LawnSite Member
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    Really? No commercial operators use Stihl's 4-mix products, which is a 4-stroke engine sans the oil sump, or any of the Dolmar 4-strokes? Posts in this forum would seem to say the opposite for, at least, the former.
     
  4. Brules

    Brules LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from Oklahoma
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    They use the dog out of them....the Stihl 600 magnum blower is one of the most popular out there.
     
  5. dboyd351

    dboyd351 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    The 4 mix isn't exactly a traditional 4 stroke like the honda trimmer he is referring to and the BR600 is a blower, not a trimmer. I'll stand by what I said - virtually nobody uses a traditional 4 stroke trimmer like the Honda he is referring to.

    This is his point: "Four strokes run at a lower rpm hence lower temps and the oiling system in a four stroke allows for much better lubrication."

    4 mixes are more like a 2 stroke in that regard than a 4 stroke. 4 mixes use oil in the gas, not a pressure fed, sump based separate oiling system like he was referring to in the Honda.
     
  6. Nutsedge

    Nutsedge LawnSite Member
    from STL, MO
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    I think you may be a bit confused or perhaps ignorant on the subject at hand here.

    What would you say makes a piece of equipment a 4 stroke, that the oil-gas is mixed or that the piston has four cycles to its combustion process?

    Cause from the sound of it, I think you believe the prior.

    I can think of two chief reason some folks still use 2 stroke stuff. One is that they don't need to change oil and since the operators/workers in a LCO don't pay for the equipment their using they don't adhere to strict maint regimens. Two, four strokes seem to be a bit more expensive to purchase.
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  7. IS500Z

    IS500Z LawnSite Member
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    The 4-mix is indeed a 4-stroke engine and full fills the first part of his statement. The oil delivery system is not relevant to that point. In terms of trimmers that use a separate oil delivery system I believe Honda and Dolmar are the main brands. Honda is relatively expensive and heavy compared to a two stroke and Dolmar suffers from a good distribution network. Perhaps there are other factors involved than the reliability or performance of 4-stroke motors in trimmers? At any point I disagree with you that the 4-mix is more like a 2T engine. Stihl's own literature points out that it is a 4-stroke motor different from the usual design in that it eliminates a sump for the oil so the engine can be run in various positions.
     
  8. Darryl G

    Darryl G LawnSite Fanatic
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    I'd stick with a 2 stroke trimmer. I have the Husky 323 which is the same as the 223 except it has a solid shaft. Very light, good power, starts easily and ready to work right away.
     
  9. Nutsedge

    Nutsedge LawnSite Member
    from STL, MO
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    Do you have any experenced with a 4 stroke piece of lawn equipment?
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  10. Brules

    Brules LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from Oklahoma
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    Stick with 2 stroke, they are lighter and less complex, Stihl has issues with their 4 mix engines (you WILL have to have the valves adjusted over the life of any of their 4 mix equipment).
     

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