Hello all As you can tell by my question and my post count, I am very new to all of this. In fact I don't have any equipment, or have mowed anyones grass. I have been reading here the past couple of weeks to learn from people who make a living out of the business. My full time place of employment is basically like a Super Walmart, with a Gas Station. They have 29.8 acres of grass that is cut every week. I have worked there many years and Brickman has a truck out there maybe once or twice a month cutting but lately its mostly the same white Ford truck pulling a white enclosed trailer. Three guys operate out of the truck, all riding mowers, a Scag and two John Deeres I believe. I can't sit back during work and clock them but I think it takes them 4 to 5 hours to finish the job. They use blowers and trimmers, they leave the job usually looking pretty good but if there is trash in the lawn sometimes they mow through it and shredded paper and plastic bags are in the lawn. Last week my boss told me they only get $250.00 a cut and even he commented that wasn't good money. We have six other stores in the Indianapolis area, I am going to assume that Brickman has a contract with my store and at least the 6 others, most likely all of the stores in the state, if not the whole company, which would be around 175 stores in five states, plus a couple of huge DCs and the main office. But from what I have learned here, anyway you look at it this job doesn't seem profitable. Here is the basic math I am looking at. $250.00 divided by 4.5 hours = $55.55 an hour. Now divide that by 3 and you get $18.50 an hour for each mower running. The crew that was out a couple days ago wasn't Brickman, so some crew is doing this even less than the $250.00 Brickman gets? This crew has nice equipment. The truck is an F250 extended cab, not new but well kept, that enclosed trailer also appeared to have the usual equipment a full time pro would have although I only had a quick look from a distance. Maybe I still have a ways to go understanding this business but it seems to me that once you pay the employees, taxes, gas, maintenance on truck and equipment and insurance there really isn't much left over. Oh yeah, the crew fueled the equipment at the gas station paying the same street prices average drivers pay. So what do y'all think? What am I missing? Is the way I am looking at the math wrong? Would you take this job?