How can you tell when the season is over?

Discussion in 'General Industry Discussions' started by Toro 455, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. Toro 455

    Toro 455 LawnSite Member
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    Customers ask me. My wife asks me. All I can tell them is "when the grass stops growing".

    What's the best indicator of that? After the first hard freeze? After it snows?

    Here in Ohio I've seen the grass grow into December, and other years it quits the end of September. What's the key? Soil temperatures? Moisture?

    I've been mowing for years and still havn't figured it out.
     
  2. grandview (2006)

    grandview (2006) LawnSite Gold Member
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    When your mower needs chains for the snow,that's when I stop.
     
  3. v6rs97

    v6rs97 LawnSite Member
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    I stop when the leaves start falling. It becomes too much like a clean up then for a weekly cutting price
     
  4. gcbailey

    gcbailey LawnSite Silver Member
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    in extreme southern WV typically the grass becomes dormant early Nov. So technically the season is probably over then. However.... we are still mowing (mulch/bag) leaves and doing fall cleanups until the first part of Dec, normally. We always have at least one measurable snow before Dec, but probably 60% of our clients want everything up and the rest let the leaves lay around and rot until the spring.
     
  5. Southern Heritage

    Southern Heritage LawnSite Member
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    We stop January first. Alabama weather is crazy though. But in a seriousness it all depends on Mother Nature.
     
  6. Glenn Lawn Care

    Glenn Lawn Care LawnSite Silver Member
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    When there is snow on the ground.
     
  7. 32vld

    32vld LawnSite Gold Member
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    Best thing is to keep a record every year when the first and last mow is done.
    Some years the season starts early or late. The same for the end of the season.

    Also record day and night time temps and rainfall. To see a connection to start/end dates.

    Then compare fall fert prop's to non fall fert props for dates.

    By having a record you can tell the customer a range for when the mowing season starts and ends for your area.

    Where I live lawns go dormant long before snow.

    As to stop mowing because leaves fall down you shorten the mowing season for no reason. If the grass is still growing mow it. Even though you mulch during the season mulching light leaf fall will not harm or leave the lawn looking bad. Then if lawn is still growing and leaf fall get heavier you mow and bag. Bag will be filled mostly with mulched leaves. Makes the fall cleanup easier. This is why I'm going to try doing it this way this year.

    Thing is if leaves get heavy enough to make a weekly mowing take more time then you charge more for doing a combined weekly mow/fall cleanup.

    For example, if you're done mowing Oct 26. Do weekly cleanups till Dec 7 that is 6 weeks. You spread out the work, spreading out the cash flow coming in. One week the lawn is wet you don't have to knock yourself out because next week the leaves will be dry.

    This is what I'm offering my current lawn clients. Those that call after all the leaves fall will get the one time price.
     
  8. CTS Lawn & Landscape

    CTS Lawn & Landscape LawnSite Member
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    I stop normally right around Thanksgiving. My season is really over when all the leaves are off the trees. Sometimes it goes into 2 weeks of December. I normally send a letter out the time I'll be stopping If the customers still want me to do leaf clean-up due to Oaks and Bradford pears being the last ones to fall, they call me.
     
  9. turfmd101

    turfmd101 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Soil temperatures dictate growth.
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  10. Toro 455

    Toro 455 LawnSite Member
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    That's what I was thinking. But my local soil temperature monitoring service only gives soil temps for springtime applications. It would be nice if they included fall temps too.

    http://www.gddtracker.net/
     

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