I know some LCOs will go 20+ miles in other states. 20 miles in NJ is FAR, period lol. A company i found out had won a bid on a 55+ housing complex in my home town area for the 2008 season. I belive my price to be very competitive to gain their business. I dont know if they chose the other company because of a lower price or some other reason, it could or could not be price related but... I service this area primarily for my business, its right across from a ton of residentials that i do. The bid was awarded to a company that is 41 miles north of here in Jersey, its on the border of central/north jersey for any who are from around here. Its ride, in a car would be an hour minimum on a "good" day with no traffic. I know the route in detail though from their area because i used to have one of my cars modified at a shop up there, and it used to take me over an hour to go just 24 miles of this 41mile route that this other LCO has to travel. Assuming they do drive in peak rush hour times morning/and afternoon to go to and from the job site, theyre looking at nearly a two hour drive EACH way. How can a company afford to send a crew of 4-5 guys, 4~hrs of driving pulling a trailer and another 6-7 on site during the whole day to complete the job each week? If this bid was lost due to pricing, I'm seriously going to be stumped as to how it was lower than my own, already being in that area and having literally no more driving time than any of my other properties that are close. The last company for 2007 service was also from my home town, a larger company that does a lot of apartment/house complexes. Are any of your companies starting to travel huge distances to service lawns and maintenance? Its not only the 41 miles as much as the nearly 2hrs of driving time.