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how long should it take me?

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by TLS landscaping, Apr 10, 2011.

  1. TLS landscaping

    TLS landscaping LawnSite Member
    from NJ
    Posts: 34

    I'm tearing down an old RR wall 3.5"x 50ft.

    how long should it take me to tear down this wall and build a new wall.
    me and 2 laborers and an excavator.?

    i'm not looking for an exact hour.. i was thinking possibly four to five days?

    i have done smaller jobs, boarders , but this would be my first job since i went on my own.

    any input would help.
  2. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,417

    Why shape are you in? Fat? Lanky? Strong? or fat, but think you're strong?

    How's your heart and lungs? Do you get short of breath?

    How are your motor skills? Can you run this excavator or will you boink your helper in the head with the boom?

    What are you rebuilding this thing with? Lincoln Logs? 2x4's? Rolled Coins? Legos? What??

    HaHa! In other words, we have no clue your physical capabilities or experience level. The job could take us 5 days but it may take someone else 3 days. Or 6 days. Over 4 days sounds like a long long long long long long time for a 50-footer......


  3. ryansbob

    ryansbob LawnSite Member
    Posts: 39

    A 3.5" (inch high wall) by 50 lineal feet long would only take me a day to remove and build.
  4. scagrider22

    scagrider22 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,272

    With three people and an excavator it sounds like you will be paying one guy to twiddle his thumbs! :laugh:

    It would take me and a helper two days but because you had to ask Im guessing it would take you twice as long.
  5. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,417

    For removal of old wall, and importing of gravel and block, this is at least a two day job. Unless you roll in there with three trucks. That always cracks me up when I see 3 trucks at a small job!

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  6. PatriotLandscape

    PatriotLandscape LawnSite Bronze Member
    from MA
    Posts: 1,209

    would you have rather that he asked for a square foot price?

    jeez if its not one thing it another.

    a guy asks for production hours and you give him ****. this board is really going to the pits.
  7. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,417

    Someone must be having a bad Wednesday. Has it been raining out your way like it has here?

    You being a veteran contractor YOU KNOW DARN WELL there is no way we can answer such a question. :hammerhead:

    If this were the case, none of us would even need to go look at a site and meet with a people. Frank Homeowner would only have to call and say "Hello 'Backyards for Less' I want a wall. 75' x 3'. How much?" "oh, $8,988? When can you start?"

    We can't answer any dude's questions about how long it should take them. We have no idea of their physical capabilities, site variables, type of material to be installed, equipment to be used, operating skills, terrain, yadda yadda yadda.

    And we can't tell them how much to charge.

    It's no different than the fact that we can not give prices over the phone to prospective callers.

    This forum is not going to the pits. And that's because some of us go to extremes to make sure the information disseminated is accurate and not derived from a fairytale.

    So many topics on here about "I was underbid by 48%...." Well, yeah, maybe the one that underbid you was on some internet forum asking how to charge and based their estimate on poor information. You come here asking for information, it may not be what you wanna hear, but at least it's going to be good, solid information.

    Or say it's your aunt that hired a contractor that she wasn't't aware that he/she has never done such a job before and your aunt got burned?

    Also, these questions repeatedly keep popping up. Over the winter I sent the moderator an e-mail offering to create an opening post for a STICKY THREAD going over pricing and such. To which I never got a reply. Really, this forum needs Sticky Threads. threads regarding pricing for walls and pavements (separate threads). It needs a sticky thread about design software, this subject keeps coming up. Maybe a thread about ICPI, that's another topic that keeps repeating itself.


    Last edited: Apr 13, 2011
  8. JoeyDipetro

    JoeyDipetro LawnSite Member
    from CA
    Posts: 117

    Thank you Patriot. I can't believe somebody didn't post similar comments sooner. I mean jeez, I'm new and here looking for help, but abrasive comments kind of make me not want to ask.:confused:
  9. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,417

    If you're serious about something, and want others to invest time in sharing their knowledge and experience (which does not come overnight) - it's only fair that you come to class prepared to supply information. I was taught - you get back what you put into it. If you want good answers then supply us with good Infomation about the terrain. Maybe a picture or two. Information about the new block - is it Keystone 8" block or is it 5" Mini Colonial? Equipment. How many people.

    Not just say "remove old tie wall 85x3. put in new block wall. how long?"

    If we knew how long things would take to do, we would not need to visit job sites to do estimates. Now would we? But we must visit sites so we can see all the variables and factor them into our job costing sheet.

    How many times have you done a home show and someone comes up and describes what they want to do and then says "so how much will something like that cost?" Can you give them a straight accurate answer? Of course not, you don't even know if there is a place to stage materials. You don't know if there are overhead utility lines that may be in the way when the tri-axle truck goes to dump the gravel. If you can't tell a person at your booth how long or how much something would cost, how can you answer a blanket question on the internet blindly (without details)?

    My initial post was to stimulate thought for the person asking, meaning "hey, gather some information and come back to us with it and we'll take it from there". Notice my last paragragh does lightly touch on his question. If the person isn't able to come back with the necesary information - then they need to do the industry a favor and should not price the work. Why should any members here waste time pecking away for something that can't set forth the effort to assist in assisting him?

    And furthermore - use the search feature! I use it about twice a week!!!

    Last edited: Apr 13, 2011
  10. JoeyDipetro

    JoeyDipetro LawnSite Member
    from CA
    Posts: 117

    Fair enough. Why not post that instead of your post number 2?

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