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How many bags?

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by michindi, Jan 28, 2004.

  1. gogetter

    gogetter Banned
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    I'm curious why you want to use bags rather then bulk?
     
  2. Let it Grow

    Let it Grow LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 476

    If I were you I'd go with unbagged bulk mulch...or at least see how much it costs. Around here I can get a yard for $15 wholesale, then I can resell it for between $30-$45/yd. (installed) and I'm pretty low, compared to most. If I were you I'd check into something like that.
     
  3. michindi

    michindi LawnSite Member
    Posts: 98

    The price for bulk is $21 a yard. Atleast thats the cheapest i have found so far. The same place would sell me bags for $1.99. The only reason I want to use bag is becuase the clean up wont be so much. I put in the bid tonight for 732 sq ft for the price of $250. Is that too much or too little?
     
  4. Let it Grow

    Let it Grow LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 476

    You must be putting down about 2" huh?

    Here's something to look at:

    4.5 yds of mulch needed

    A) Bagged mulch-61 2cu. ft. bags x $1.99=$121.39

    B) Wholesale unbagged-4.5 x $21=$94.50

    Since your wholesale price is higher than mine I would probably charge $50-$60 per yd. so I would have bid around $225-$270 (Realistically more like $270). Which would mean I would make about $175 profit ($270-mulch cost ($94)=$176)

    One guy can do a yard an hour usually so it would take about
    4.5hrs which would mean you I would make about $39/hr. (That is if I did all my math right!!!) which is pretty good in my area.

    In other words I probably would have bid a little higher.
     
  5. michindi

    michindi LawnSite Member
    Posts: 98

    Your right I was going to put 2" down. I just talked to the guy and said that was way too much and he is just going to go to Home Depot and do it himself... Let it Grow how did you know I was only going to put 2" down?
     
  6. NCSULandscaper

    NCSULandscaper Banned
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    The simplest formula to use is length x width divided by 100 for 2-3" depth. Which for the most part is all you need at a time. That answer you get is the number of cubic yards you will need.

    Bagged mulch would cost me about $30 a cu.yd I get bulk mulch which is better than bagged for $10 a cu. yd.
     
  7. Let it Grow

    Let it Grow LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 476

    This guy must not know how much it costs to do the job! I wouldn't go lower...you'll be working too hard for not enough money!

    I knew you were putting that much down because I just entered your numbers into my mulch calculator, and that's what it came up with. Did the guy specify that he wanted 2"? Maybe he's thinking that he just wants it "refreshed", maybe that's why he thinks it's too high? Just a thought.

    If I were you I'd stick to my bid...after he starts he might figure out that it's more work than he though...if not...oh well, there's plenty more people out there that will pay well for the work you do.

    Good luck.
     
  8. GrassBustersLawn

    GrassBustersLawn LawnSite Senior Member
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    Michindi - I charge $63 a yard for product and installation - TO DO BULK. My trailer can carry 7 cu yards per load, so I could do the job you are talking about (4.5) yards with ONE TRIP from mulch store to job. I doubt if you could get 60 bags in one load, so you would have to charge MORE to make the same money due to all your extra drive time.

    LEt the customer do it. Maybe he will appreciate how much work is involved in laying mulch! Next time he needs it he will be ready to pay what it is worth to have an LCO put it down.

    Mike
     
  9. Lux Lawn

    Lux Lawn LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,267

    We always buy in bulk its cheaper for us and I would rather shovel it off a trailer or driveway anyday then open all of those bags.
     
  10. gergaler

    gergaler LawnSite Member
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    First off man, You never buy in bags, you always buy bulk. If you only need a half a yard then buy a half a yard. Your price is alot cheaper and you make more money...


    Are rate in michigan is 50.00 a yard laid down. That for some plain old ceader mulch. My price is about 21 dollars on that
     

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