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How much can a solo make!

Discussion in 'Starting a Lawn Care Business' started by cgrant711, Jan 18, 2014.

  1. cpllawncare

    cpllawncare LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,659

    LOL I posted that shortly afterwards, I was doing 43/week solo for about a month and said hell with it ain't worth it and hired a helper, LOL
  2. whiffyspark

    whiffyspark LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,087

    On paper its a perfect scenario.

    Everybody has their own views. That is something I just Dont agree with. I Dont want a job. I want a business. With that many lawns being decently priced, I'd be out of the field.

    I'd be willing to take a pay cut and everything. Hell I'm planning to have two full times at 50 properties
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  3. cpllawncare

    cpllawncare LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,659

    I'm going part time this year, we're up to almost 50 maint accounts now, but we've got the install side going strong, I'm going to start the season with one full time guy on maint and see if he can handle it, I'm guessing I'll have to jump in at least one or two days a week, I really want to focus on getting the cash built up this season, we spent a lot of money last year getting the install crew going.
  4. Kelly's Landscaping

    Kelly's Landscaping LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,259

    Could never cover the ground in that same time span with just the one truck idea. As a two man crew we see 750-900 a day as one man crews we see 550-650 a day each. So the reason is to maximize the income and a 1 man crew is by definition the most efficient you can have.
  5. cpllawncare

    cpllawncare LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,659

    WHAT? 550-650 a day! that's ludicrous! Hopefully you mean 55-65 a day? even then, one man can't do that much in one day? One week maybe?
  6. jc1

    jc1 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,515

    It's ashame to drop off so many accounts and two employees.
    I assume that you and your partner each worked with 1 employee each.
    If that's the case I would expect that you will complete 40% less work per week.(you used to cut 200 lawns now only 120)
    Using generic numbers
    200 lawns @ 40 = 8000 weekly
    160@40= $6400 weekly
    Payroll two employees based on 3 ten hour days last year @ $12 with tax and workmans comp lets say $15 per hour. For a total cost of $900
    To save $450 each for you and your partner.
    You each have to do 100% of the work on your individual routes.
    23 lawns @ $40 is what your payroll costs.
    From experience performing lawn service solo, two man or 3 man crew
    I could net $x solo
    With I man I could net $x + 20k
    With 3 man I could net $x + 30k
    With 2 man crew I run business, jump in if needed and still net the original $x
    If I am hurt or tired or with a customer $ still being generated.
    I think that you estimates could be high (lawns per week solo)for what you and your partner expect to achieve.

    What you are doing is doable ,things to consider in no specific order.
    Estimates ( any time you are not working 50% less work is being completed.)

    The added work load working separately and solo could impact your relationship with your partner if either of you get burnt out and then start to believe the. Other is not pulling thir weight.
  7. cpllawncare

    cpllawncare LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,659

    I guess I'm missing a piece of the puzzle here, there is no way you can do 200 lawns a week with a one man crew not even a two man crew, are there like 50 at a time in one neighborhood? are they postage stamp lawns? doing just mow and go work? We do full service in upscale area's, so the numbers y'all are talking are mind boggling.
  8. jc1

    jc1 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,515

    He said two 2 man crews working 3 days to cut 200 lawns.

    Now they are gonna try to do 160 with two 1 man crews in 4 days
  9. whiffyspark

    whiffyspark LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,087

    A one man crew is not the most efficient you can have.

    A two man crew is. The whole argument about paying drive time and everything else is irrevelant. You will never come close to the same production day in and day out the whole season.

    You'll get burnt out trying to do what Youre saying you're going to do.
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  10. cpllawncare

    cpllawncare LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,659

    I'm not seeing it happen.maybe two, two man crews doing 160 in four days?

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