I have been convinced by the members on this site and by my exmark dealer to have my next machine be an exmark tthp. I am looking at the 48inch 17hsp with ecs. The cost is $4999 and for the electric start it is $5199. I am going to demo the machine in a few weeks. My question is how much is a tthp like i described in your area? What did you pay for yours or a tt machine and did the dealer throw in anything free like blades or filters? this site and the exmark support/dealer has swayed me from my toro dealer, thanks guys for showing me the better company and machine.