Herler I can't get over how much dif our business models are. I see you as having many, MANY smaller accounts and working hard honest days mowing and trimming and edging and spraying or pulling weeds and talking to people trying to find more work etc etc. Where I go to a job and get on the mower and mow for hours on end and nothing but. Most of my accounts have to be sold on the value of trash collection and blowing clippings. These customers have huge lots. Most are some type of manufacturing or logistics and are on the edges of my town in half filled industrial parks. HUGE lots. I never see or hear from my customers after the sale. Most don't care about me, they only care when the grass ISN'T cut. I can pretty well tell you how much I'll profit this year because even if it don't rain I can go and blow dust and send an invoice and like a robot the customer pays. All I have to do is show up and mow and stay out of their way. For the last year and a half I have been working on our newest account for next year(I think). It is a 60 acre cemetery, another 25 acre cemetery on the other side of town which spans a valley=hilly, and a main office. 3 locations, ten thousand graves, they don't even know exactly how many they have. 85.5 acres. Won't be twoman for much longer. He has told me exactly how much they have paid over the last ten years and to who. I think we are in different worlds you and me. I totally respect you, your business potential, and you opinions here. Don't mis understand what I am trying to say. We are all going to have different numbers.