how much stone? how much to charge?

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  1. bobbygedd

    bobbygedd LawnSite Fanatic
    from NJ
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    this is a rough one for me to estimate. i do have the option with these particular clients to charge by the hour for labor, because i've been servicing thier property which is basically in the woods, doing leaf cleanup, for 3 yrs now, and it's all charged by the hour, so i can do that, but i don't want to. here is the job: i have to put in 90 ft of perferated black plastic drain pipe. all digging, in soft easy soil, will be done by hand. i'll use 3/4" bluestone on the bottom, and 1.5" deleware stone on top. so i'm assuming the trench will be 18" wide, by......as deep as i need to go to get the pipe underground, and covered with like 3" of stone. i hope this description is ok. any ideas on pricing? i may just have to charge hourly for labor, and then add materials. thanks
     
  2. Phishook

    Phishook LawnSite Bronze Member
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    12 hrs. + materials

    about 750 total
     
  3. bobbygedd

    bobbygedd LawnSite Fanatic
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    12 HOURS? are u sure? man, i was gonna figure 6. i could have burned myself real bad
     
  4. Runner

    Runner LawnSite Fanatic
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    What is it you are trying to do, a French drain? Are you going to grow grass back on top if it?
    First, I wouldn't think that your trench has to be 18" wide. If you are using regular drain tile that is most commonly used, it is 4 1/2" A shovel width is approx. 9" wide.
    If you figure 6" deep on the bottom, you would be looking at just under a yard and a half. At 4" it would be around a yard.
    If you ARE going to put sand and soil on top to grow turf, you need to use peagravel on top of the pipe, so the dirt doesnt settle down into the stone on top. 1 1/2" is way too large for this. I hope this helps.
     
  5. bobbygedd

    bobbygedd LawnSite Fanatic
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    runner, what i'm trying to do, is this: the landscaping is in front of the house, which is at the bottom of a hill. the water runs down, and washes away the turf in front of the landscaping, further eroding the ground, and making a mess. i plan to put the pipe, on the bottom of the hill, where the hill meets the landscaping, and run the pipe along the entire front of the house, around the side, and into the back woods. i'll put the 1.5" deleware stone on top, cus it will allow the water to go thru, and into the pipe, and the 1.5" deleware stone is what she has in her landscape beds, so it will just be like extending the bed 18".
     
  6. Phishook

    Phishook LawnSite Bronze Member
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    12 migh be a little high

    go dig a 10' section in your back yard, or front, then use that as a estimate.



    They make drain tile with a sock over it, to stop the soil from washing into it.
     
  7. bobbygedd

    bobbygedd LawnSite Fanatic
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    excellent idea phish, excellent. will do that tommorow
     
  8. 1MajorTom

    1MajorTom Senior Moderator
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    Mr. Bobby Gedd,
    I'm appalled that you are asking us common folk pe-ons how to estimate your job. I thought you knew everything. How will anyone know how fast you can dig to accarately estimate this? Have you thought about where you are going to put your spoils. I can see you now, you with your spade shovel and chico with the wheelbarrow pushing 2 football fields to get to the woods to dump.........
     
  9. impactlandscaping

    impactlandscaping LawnSite Silver Member
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    Depending on material costs, delivery, dumping, etc. in Jersey, you should be OK with an $ 800-1000.00 quote for this job.Make sure to use a soil fabric over the pipe, and allow 1" fall for 100' to carry the water away to the end of the pipe. Curtain drains like these are very profitable when installed correctly.If possible, use some tarps to windrow your dirt on , then you will leave the lawn free of mud, and spend less time backfilling and cleaning up.Two of you(if that's the scenario here..lol) should be able to get this dug , placed , and filled in a half day, depending on the soil conditions. Don't forget to call Miss Utility to check for unforseen obstructions, like cable TV lines or telephone cables..lol
     
  10. impactlandscaping

    impactlandscaping LawnSite Silver Member
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    Oops, forgot to tell you how much stone to get.
    3/4" for bottom of trench @ 4": 90'LX10"WX12"D : .75 ton-1 ton
    Top of trench: 1 ton-1.25 tons @ 3-4"
     

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