Guys, I had this potential customer that didn't beleive me regardless. Now This prop is a new cunstruction and the builders left a mess of blue stone all over the lawn area 2x4's sticking out of the ground everywhere.... Anyways I'm bidding this site for sodding.... The problem is he'se got a few huge spruces and pines.... And he wants to sod it. So i'm like thats not going to work to well... Its very hard to grow grass under trees this size and with the amount of neddles they constantly drop.... Also the amount of shade the lawn will get will kill the lawn... What do you tell customers the reason not to plant grass under spruces and pines? Ph level..... stuff like that Most proffesional way that even the most stubburn person can't resist????