Larry As far as rent vs buy. I have no problem buying. If you have the cash in the bank for that 12k skidsteer. By all means buy the sucker. Pay for it once and you own it free and clear. Most guys however will rent a skidsteer for a couple jobs and say "Dang this thing is awesome, i can get a lot of work with one of these" Then they will head down to the CAT dealer, pick out a new one, sign the papers and off they go with 7 years of payments.