How to price 2 story house demo?

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  1. icex

    icex LawnSite Senior Member
    from WV
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    I got a call to price out a demo on a 2 story house. I got to go look at it tommorow. Here we just burn the houses, we usualy don't haul them off. How should I price tearing it down? Also, I have a 304 excavator. Is it going to be basicaly impossible to tear it down or could I build a small ramp from tearing the side out and then get to the roof if its not to tall?
     
  2. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
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    I have taken down 2 story buildings with my mini ex. Bigger is better but it can be done ( I say that without seeing what your looking at but two stories is two stories). What I have done is demo a portion of it and then use that demo material as a ramp to access the higher portions of the house without working directly under the project.
     
  3. SiteSolutions

    SiteSolutions LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I'm looking at two different demolition jobs right now and both have at least a couple elements that would be too big to do with a smaller mini-ex, so I've priced rental machines. I think a 16,000 - 18,000 pound machine would be perfect but nobody seems to have one so far. There are some 28,000# machines, which I may get just to have the extra size and speed.

    Your 304 could probably do a lot of it, maybe all of it, if you're patient. Big question mark for me would be the foundation: Is it on a slab or crawlspace? How big are the footers? I saw a 48,000# excavator stopped on a house demo job yesterday; the whole slab was cleared and then he hit the footers and they were monsters. Had to rent a machine with a big hammer to break them up. Find out what the cleared property will be used for and whether you have to get the footers out, then make sure you have a plan in case you run into some over-built 2' wide x 2' deep reinforced footers.
     
  4. icex

    icex LawnSite Senior Member
    from WV
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    I quoted it at $3,500 and that includes renting a excavator and burning it then burrying. The excavator would be $1000 for a day which aint to bad, thats from CAT.
     
  5. YellowDogSVC

    YellowDogSVC LawnSite Gold Member
    from TX
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    Wow. Even in land owner right's Texas, burning and burying construction debris would be an EPA or Texas Environmental Quality issue. Are you sure it is legal to do that and "not just what everyone does."
    In real estate, if the land is sold, anything buried has to be disclosed in many locations. Down here, burying materials makes the land an uncertified landfill.. or illegal landfill and it can cost you later.

    I would make sure that you have all the facts on the clean-up regulations. I know that local volunteer fire departments can get a waiver from the state to "practice" burn a house and then it's just a matter of waiting until it cools and cleaning it up. It takes a little money out of our pockets but the fire departments get excellent training and work on their skills so I don't complain.

    Check your state regulations and make sure your insurance covers demolition of structures. You might find that you need roll off containers or dump trucks to haul debris which will bring the price up.
     
  6. SiteSolutions

    SiteSolutions LawnSite Bronze Member
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    A buddy of mine works in commercial real estate appraisal and we've discussed a few demolition jobs lately. For estimating demolition for appraisal purposes, they use $4/ sq ft for a stick frame building. $5 / sq ft for concrete block.

    Hope you can get it all in one day; burning is a lot slower than hauling away.
     
  7. icex

    icex LawnSite Senior Member
    from WV
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    Everyone burns it around here and burries it, I don't know how legal it is I just know that everyone burns it. I have burnt a house before but they hauled it off to a free landfill with their own time.
     
  8. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
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    I priced 1 at 5k which is what it ended up costing me after the dumpsters and 160 rental.
     
  9. icex

    icex LawnSite Senior Member
    from WV
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    I can rent a 200C excavator for $900 a day delivered and picked up. This is all going to be burnt (i hope)
     
  10. SiteSolutions

    SiteSolutions LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Just sayin', I always try and figure what it could cost me if things go bad or slow or I f**k it up, and base my pricing on that... then if things do go wrong, I don't lose my shirt; if I do good and things roll my way, I make out great. Sounds like a 10k job to me (without seeing it or running any numbers.)

    I don't have a moral objection to burning but it seems like more machine time and a mess to clean up for the next few days. With trucks or dumpsters, it goes bye-bye in the box and it is gone, no mess. Again, how clean it has to be depends a lot on what the property owner wants to do with the land once the house is demo'ed.

    As for the machine, that's a decent price. I'm still looking for a 18,000# machine to rent but I will probably have to step up to a bigger one like that and pay the big bucks.
     

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