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How to remove Henbit from Bermuda

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by burkcs, Mar 11, 2008.

  1. burkcs

    burkcs LawnSite Member
    Posts: 21

    My problem exactly. I applied the Stonwall 0-0-7 (Barricade) at a half dose four months apart. This was recommended by Lesco. Talking with them yesterday they now are recommending the full dose of Barricade every 3-4 months or to go back to Dimension.
  2. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 9,064

    southernsprayguy, that is a quite a cocktail. It is almost like what I will use on a bad zoysia or bermuda lawn that is more weeds than grass. 64 oz MSMA, 1 lb simazine, 11.43 oz Image DG, 1 lb 2,4-D ester and 1/2 lb Banvel in 2 gallons per M. This probably costs more than yours, but lawns here are always infested with dallisgrass, goosegrass, purple nutsedge, all varieties of kyllinga and tons of broadleaves, especially oxalis. As long as the lawn is getting adequate irrigation and at least 1/2 lb/M of N per month, the grass will handle this. I won't spray this on a lawn that I am not fertilizing or do not have control of the irrigation system.
  3. hdtvluvr

    hdtvluvr LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 485

    If all of this is mixed (1 quart MSMA, 1 quart Surge, 6 oz generation, and 5 -10 lbs sprayable grade Ammonium Sulfate) and applied per acre, what is the 1.5-2 gallons per 1000 of H2O mean? What strength is the MSMA?

    Can dye be added to this mixture without causing problems?

    When should the mixture be applied?
  4. southernsprayguy

    southernsprayguy LawnSite Member
    Posts: 129

    I have never seen any of my lawns yellow up using that summer application....ever.

    Rounds 1 & 2 are either Pendimethlin (Aquacap) or Prodiamine + Simazine and 2,4-D ester. I use Pendi on even years and Prodiamine on odd years. Works great! When temps stay above 70, I which to 2,4-D amine. Good Luck.
  5. southernsprayguy

    southernsprayguy LawnSite Member
    Posts: 129

  6. southernsprayguy

    southernsprayguy LawnSite Member
    Posts: 129

    Thanks for sharing that.
  7. southernsprayguy

    southernsprayguy LawnSite Member
    Posts: 129

    I started using a company called Brandt Consolidated for most of my post patents and liquid fert. Great service and the shipping is two days most of the time. Good luck.
  8. ArchiesLawns

    ArchiesLawns LawnSite Member
    from Alabama
    Posts: 124

    Southernsprayguy, I have 2 questions. 1) Where is Brandt Consolidated? And what all do they sell (chemicals or fert or both)? 2) On your Rounds 1 & 2 with aquacap or prodiamine, simazine & 2,4 D, is this mixture taking care of your poa annua? If so, what rate are you using the simazine? If not, what are you spraing on the poa annua?

    Thanks for all your input!
  9. hmartin

    hmartin LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 590

    Dimension in November is too late. Many winter annuals have already germinated. Simazine is great because is kills pre and post emerge on many broadleafs.
  10. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 9,064

    Simazine + MSMA will take down most grassy weeds better than either one by itself. A case of 2+2=7. I can kill goosegrass, crabgrass, crowfoot, and smutgrass, all of those are major problems here. This is especially valuable on zoysia, because the normal Sencor + MSMA tank mix will kill zoysia. Bermuda grass tolerates the MSMA + simazine much better as well. There is much less yellowing and dieback. Most MSMA on the market is 6 lb per gallon. So I am usually doing 3 lb/A. I will really miss MSMA when the EPA pulls it. Drive and Dismiss are illegal in Hawaii, so my options are limited. There is no real winter here, so preemergents will only stop future generations of weeds. Also, don't know if it a soil or climate issue, but the grasses here do not tolerate herbicides such as Dimension, Pre-M or Barricade very well. The root pruning effect damages the lawn and actually opens up the turf to weed invasion.

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