We bought a DFS Vac for our Toro Z Master. Never owned a Vac before. This thing set us back $ 2,100 with tax and labor to install. It does not pick up sticks, pine cones, plastic. I need to go over the lawn 3 times to get most of the leaf's. Our 21 toro with a bag on it does a better job! Do all Vacs do this well? The (DFS) Dump From Seat is nice, and because it does not have the big spindle mount blower, it fits on my 12X6 trailer with out taking it apart. Over all on a 1 to 10, I give it a 5. What do you have? and give it a 1 to 10, 10 means you love it.