Human Urine for fertilizer.

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by Think Green, Jul 14, 2012.

  1. Think Green

    Think Green LawnSite Silver Member
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    The basic research I have discovered.........9:1 ratio depending on diet is the scientific rate for diluting human urine. If the urine contains nitrogen, phosphorus and or potassium.......minus medications, is this a accurate hypothesis. Does urine change the pH since urine is acidic. Salinic compounds effects the pH, so is human urine safer to use at diluted rates.
    I am curious if we can start a discussion based on the facts and uses in Agriculture, growing, lawns etc. We are all in ability to contain these wastes as long as we can harbor and use the correct ratio's. I am in learning mode, so please understand that common inorganic fertilizer's is all I know. I am willing to learn more from real people rather than staged information for the masses.

    Thanks
    Think Green!!
     
  2. HOPCONE

    HOPCONE LawnSite Member
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    where do you plan to accquire that much piss? i'd say put a 275gal tote outside of the local watering hole, and cut a hole in each side. 4 man urinal, which would also be a good name for a punk band.
     
  3. cgaengineer

    cgaengineer LawnSite Fanatic
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    Once you have gathered enough how do you plan on using it? Your own lawn? Customers?
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  4. Think Green

    Think Green LawnSite Silver Member
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    This is just a discussion whether one uses horse, cow, pig, sheep urine as organic re-administering nutrients for grasses or shrubbery. This isn't a new concept in other countries it is still a useful practice. If we can purchase liquid urea's, then why can't we contain our own. My initial question is of the ratio from experiences. Has anyone used or studied the use of such practices. If one can collect and harvest free ureas in the form of urine, then why not collect it and use it. For whatever use!! I understand that everything has to be regulated by the EPA or FDA and other regulatory agencies. Organics still falls under the guidelines of your licenses.
    If all I am going to get is comedy then I guess my mind is a bit more far advanced than most.
     
  5. HOPCONE

    HOPCONE LawnSite Member
    from RI
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    you're right, you're way smarter than us.

    ask a silly question, you get a silly answer.
     
  6. i've been pissing on my yard for years and it aint helping.
     
  7. phasthound

    phasthound LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Waste not - want not.
    I'm not about to do it, but I remember reading about in some places in Europe they were introducing urinals that separate solid & liquid wastes.

    A quick search produced these sites:
    http://tlc.howstuffworks.com/home/studies-conclude-urine-good.htm
    https://www.uni-hohenheim.de/respta/poster/urine_fert.pdf
    http://cee.eng.usf.edu/peacecorps/5 - Resources/Theses/Sanitation/2010Shaw.pdf

    While I don't have concerns with medicines in EPA EQ Biosolids, I would be wary of them in unprocessed American pee.

    I'm curious as to why you are looking into this.
     
  8. Patriot Services

    Patriot Services LawnSite Fanatic
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    And you guys betch about the smell of Milorganite.:usflag:
     
  9. phasthound

    phasthound LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Not me. Besides urine only stinks after eating asparagus. :eek:
     
  10. Think Green

    Think Green LawnSite Silver Member
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    Funny thing you should ask about its usage.
    We are still in a green world that collects chicken fertilizer, pig fert., cow fert. etc. but there is no real mention of urine collection for commercial fertilizers. Or could it be that it already exists and is used in our liquid forms.
    I did some research into other biosolid waste materials for usage on grass from sewage facilities. There was a company locally who was starting up and manufacturing a different kind of milorganite. From what I understand it never made it to production for problems of the PC&E.
    My real intent is to seek out other natural forms of nitrogen for customer and commercial usage. Since the cost of fertilizer is on the rise, then why can we not find another source.
    I am not trying to make my job harder, I am trying to make it easier with the products we already have since I am in a Agricultural area. Most of these natural fertilizers is available but none of the mentioned liquid. If this form of business has a niche in the industry........it may already exist that I know of, we can all benefit from liquid usage.
    I don't feel that it is a stupid question.......since it is an old practice, yet a green world isn't using its free resources.
     

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