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Hustler SuperZ vs John Deere Z series

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing Equipment' started by jl8806, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Michigan
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    I don't mean to speak for him, but I'm not sure he's still online, so I'll answer that. He runs a Gravely 452 Z and a Scag WB.
     
  2. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I run Scag and Gravely. The Velocity and X-Factor decks are very similar to the 7-Iron. My Scag is a 52" hydro walkbehind and my Gravely is a 452 ZTR.
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  3. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
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    :rolleyes:
    No, that video is old like I said. I believe it was a first year 900. Def not the R model, which is no different than what I run outside of the seat and flex forks. I have to wonder if it was "detuned" myself since it is so far behind. Regardless, like we've been saying, don't get caught up in a rediuclous video. It proves less than nothing in reality. Who knows how each machine was operated or set up.
     
  4. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    What I thought was odd about that vid was the Hustler took off quick but near the end the others were making up ground quick? To many unknown variables to take the video seriously.
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  5. jl8806

    jl8806 LawnSite Member
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    Yea guess I was reading a little to much into it lol... What about the deere on hills and ditches? The hustler would set on hills pretty good, our Dixie's are ok as long as your just going up a hill but you can't stop and turn on a hill or go off of one like I could with the hustler, I'll probably keep the Dixie's in the ditches to keep from being so hard on my new mower but I do need it on hills...
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  6. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
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    The Deere holds hills as good as any Z made today.
     
  7. weeze

    weeze LawnSite Fanatic
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    don't worry about speed. top speed on mine is 10.5mph. i've yet to cut at that speed on any lawn i cut. the fastest i've got it up to is about 9mph and that is only possible if you are cutting on a smooth wide open area and the grass hasn't grown very much. most of the time you are cutting at 8mph or even less. the deere holds hills great.
     
  8. mtmower

    mtmower LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I've had a couple of SZs and now have a Gravely 460. After getting the 460 I took my GPS and checked them both on a black top road after adjusting the tire PSI, engine RPMs, and steering stops. What I found was my recent SZ was doing just under 14 mph (not 15 mph) and with adjustments I got it to a strong 14.2. The 460 was about 12.5 mph and I was able to get a strong 13 plus out of it. Keep in mind the tire diameter is slightly off due to new rubber on the 460 and 1100 hr., pretty well shot tires on the SZ. All in all the SZ is faster which is fun and somewhat usable but not the end all deciding factor IMO.

    I would consider what options you're installing on them. Even though my 460 has an amazing seat system on it and more compact due to a smaller foot print, the overall ride is stiffer/rougher than my SZ which has a lesser suspension seat, pneumatic front tires, and flex forks. So in my case I can operate the SZ at a higher rate of speed under rougher conditions. I average a cutting speed of around 10 mph in the wide open. If you can get a mower that cuts 2 mph slower but has a QOC good enough to do it in one pass so you're not having to double cut, it's a no brainer. Long story longer, if you not getting the suspension or suspension seat, speed is less usable.

    This spring I'm going to see if I can install the flex forks off my SZ onto my 460 and see what happens!
     
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2013
  9. weeze

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    i wouldn't even buy a mower without a suspension seat or platform of some type. any suspension at all is better than nothing. even residential mowers have suspension springs under the seats.
     
  10. jl8806

    jl8806 LawnSite Member
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    What options do I have for striping kits on the R deeres, iv heard they don't stripe very good so I would want something if that is the case...
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