Hydro inventor?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by lawnsurfer, Jul 14, 2000.

  1. lawnsurfer

    lawnsurfer LawnSite Member
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    I came across an article online about the inventor of the hydrostatic drive. Joseph Berrios got sick and tired of his belt drive ( kind of like me except 10 years later) So he did something about it and showed it to Dane Scag, who put it on the market, I guess in 1990.(grammer?:)I remember when those came out I wasn't in the business, but liked to check out the equiptment arrrr arrrr. I thought they were so overpriced. After demoing several hydro setups I would pay few thousand more,my back is worth it;). I don't know how to put up a link to the article(I typed Lawn and Landscape and mowers in the yahoo sight)in Lawn and Landscape. Today I was wondering what will be the next inovation that will make our lives easier as I blew off the walks of some of my customers. Maybe a automated Blower that could help you blow off the lawn,(kinda of like a robomower but I think more doable) I don't know, what would you like to invent? just curious and like I said , something to read.
     
  2. KirbysLawn

    KirbysLawn Millenium Member
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    To add a link just type url with [ ]on each side and put in at the front of the link.<p>Paste the link, then put [/url] on the other end, that's it. What a pain it was to type that without making a link!<p>Ray<br><p><font size="1">Edited by: KirbysLawn
     
  3. Richard Martin

    Richard Martin LawnSite Fanatic
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    Just a slight clarifacation. Berrios did not invent the hydro drive and Scag did not build it. They can lay claim to the &lt;i&gt;dual-hydro&lt;/i&gt; drive. Ferris claims to have introduced the world to hydro drive commercial walkbehinds.
     
  4. thelawnguy

    thelawnguy LawnSite Silver Member
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    Hydrostatic drive has been around for 50+ years. I remember as a kid 30+ years ago playing on my grampas hydro drive roller (and it was old then) Just took a genius to figure out it would work as well on lawn equipment.<p>Bill
     
  5. Lazer

    Lazer LawnSite Bronze Member
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    The article said all 14 manufacturers of dual hydro mowers built them under license from this guy.<p>Wow, I wonder what kind of cash this guy's knocking down?<p>What about Riders? Didn't Dixie have a dual hydro type system for their mowers in the 80's? What about today's riders, are they built under license as well.
     
  6. Lee Homan

    Lee Homan LawnSite Member
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    As far as new innovations, I would like to see a mower that has less mechanical parts.<br>Seems like they could build something that didn't have so many belts, springs, pulleys, bushings, spacers etc.,etc. Always something to be replaced.
     
  7. Evan528

    Evan528 LawnSite Silver Member
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    i have wanderd for a while why on belt driven walkbehinds they dont make the drive wheels directly connected to the transmission instaed of a belt going to the transmission to each drive wheel. It seems all they would have to do it put the tranmission on the bottom of the platform its on now and it would be at the right height toi drive the wheels directly... there would be no more belts slippin! wouldnt that be great!
     
  8. Keith

    Keith LawnSite Gold Member
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    Evan, the problem with that is that it would require two transmissions, since both shafts turn the same direction and speed.
     
  9. thelawnguy

    thelawnguy LawnSite Silver Member
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    Evan my 1994 John Deere WB is set up this way. The transmission is beneath the tractor deck and the wheels are mounted directly to the axle shafts. The shaft is split inside the transmission and are powered via two wet disk clutches, similar to whats in a motorcycle. By squeezing the hand grips you disengage the clutch to each wheel, squeezing further activates the brake which is integral with the clutch, like a coaster brake on your old schwinn.<p>No belts to the wheels, only a engine to trans belt and an engine to deck-and-blades belt.<p>Bill
     
  10. steve

    steve LawnSite Member
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    I know Ferris had a hydrostatic Commercial WB back in 1985 or 86 or 87. Well I know for a fact they had them in 1987 When my dealer tok them on. Accually they had hydro's before belt drives!!!
     

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