I just threw $475 dollars down the drain!!

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Victor, Apr 1, 2000.

  1. Victor

    Victor LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,430

    In the past two days I've been busting my butt hanging signs on telephone poles for advertising purposes obviously. Well....this afternoon, I got a call from one of the electric companies in town. This jerk told me that one of his workers had seen a sign of mine on one of their telephone poles. He asked me in a very rude way, &quot;who told you, that you could hang your sing on our pole&quot;? I told him that I didn't know of any rules against it. Especially since I had seen so many signs on poles all the time. He said that I would be fined $38 for every sign that they found, and consequently had to remove, if I didn't pull them down myself. When I asked him to name the problem location, he couldn't even tell me where the pole was. Problem #1 is I don't remember all of the locations where I put up signs because I put up 50 of them. Problem #2 is the fact that I have $475 invested in them, and to take them down would ruin them (since they are of the fiber-core type. I sure hate the idea of taking such an expensive screwin'. I'm trying to figure out what to do. Anyone have suggestions, or the same experience?<p>Victor
     
  2. cjcland

    cjcland LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 278

    i am sorry to here about that, i once put about 500 out at a mall on windshield and the security came and told me i had to take them all off, luckily i talked him out of it<p>----------<br>CJC Landscape Management<br>Winter Haven, Florida
     
  3. Eric ELM

    Eric ELM Husband, Father, Friend, Angel
    Posts: 4,831

    This could be a competitor pulling your leg too. I've never heard of this before.<p>----------<br>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.townserver.com/elm/&quot;&gt;Eric@ELM&lt;/a&gt;<br>
     
  4. More and more cities are making it illegal to post any kind of signs on public right of ways, telephone poles, electic poles. Why? People like me have to pick up the signs once they get blown off and land on my clients property. <p>In my city,(Millbrae, Ca.) it is illegal to post any kind of sign on a public post or poles. What's ironic about this is that there's a little black,red and white sticker that is posted on any kind of post or poles letting people know about this ordinance.<br>Jean<p>----------<br>J-LC Landscaping & Maintenance Gardening<br>C-27 Ca Contr# 770044
     
  5. fireball

    fireball LawnSite Member
    from ne Pa
    Posts: 172

    That's why the phone company makes the big bucks. Really its just a safety problem, because everyone is using 16 penny nails to mount their signs, it makes for hazardous climbing for the lineman. Sorry you had to learn the hard way. in addition, don't put flyers in the mailbox at the curbs, the postal inspectors will get you
     
  6. thelawnguy

    thelawnguy LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,412

    I kinda doubt the utility co. would call, most likely they would get the address from the phone co. and send a warning via mail.<p>Here, we get a reminder with our electric bill every month, do not post on poles, its illegal, the intended target is tag sale signs. They also use the climber injury on nails excuse, though they use buckets exclusively, the only time the spurs were ever used were during training.<p>Bill
     
  7. Bobby

    Bobby LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 258

    Fireball's right about the mail boxes. I put out a few hundred fliers in mailboxes a few years ago. The postmaster sent me a bill for 138.00 I asked how he came to that number, he said it was an estimate and if I did'nt pay, we would take it to the next level. Oh yea, the money was for stamps for the flyers.I guess you can touch their box if you leave an offering. <p>----------<br>Bobby <br>Ft Lauderdale
     
  8. steveair

    steveair LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,073

    In jersey they have the same type of ordiances. For instance, if you have a garage sale, you ARE allowed to post signs, but they must have the address written on them so they can find you. The signs can only stay out for a couple days though. After that, you are required to go back and pick the signs up, or they will fine you.<p>It kind of follows the whole sign idea in general. In order to get a sign for your business put up, say in front of your house or work yard, you have to apply for all kind of permits. A lot of times they won't let you do.<p>So what do people do. <p>This. They have regs. that say you cannot have a &quot;permanent&quot; sign structure without a building permit. What people do now a days is Buy old vans, paint them up, and park them in front of their homes, business, etc. It works because the laws say nothing about this.<p>If you do this though, the van HAS to have plates/be registered and inspected for that matter. Someone down the street did this with a old $100 van that had no engine. He ended having to get rid of it because it had no plates.<p>Another idea along the same line is this. Other people buy trailers, then mount Huge billboards on them. They then drive them around and leave them in parking lots, road side turn offs, etc. It works good. You can put a 10 by 20 sign on a trailer. A real attention getter. Again, the trailer needs to be registered. In some cases it may be trespassing in the parking lots, but you can always use the excuse that its broken down or something and thats why you left it there. Untill they rewrite the laws, you can get away with doing this.<br>
     
  9. JJ Lawn

    JJ Lawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 350

    Yes, the utility companies can make you remove the signs from their poles. The poles belong to them. And in some cities it is illegal to post signs on them. <p>The reason for this is for the safty of the utility company workers. A lot of companys require that people have to climb these poles with a set of hooks strapped to ther feet. And there is nothing worse than climbing a pole that is full of nails and signs. All you have to do is hit one nail head while climbing or desending the pole and you can fall off the pole. It is bad enough if the person slips on the pole, the creosote splinters do enough damage, but if the pole is full of nails it can cause even more injuries. I speak from experience. I worked 17 yrs for GTE before I was layed off in 1994. And I have hit a few nails while climbing poles, and I have removed a lot of signs.<p>So please, find another place to put your signs.<p>Jim
     
  10. It could be worse Victor. Retro says he just<br>spent $758 for 15 display ads in his small town newspaper.<p>He will be luckly to get even 15 responses.<p>That's only $50 per contact and he still has<br>to close on a couple of contacts just to<br>pay back the newspaper.<p>I am placing a classifed ad in my local paper<br>(75k circulation) on Monday for less than $100 for<br>thirty days offering overseeded, aeration, <br>dethatching, and fert/pest apps.<p>I will not offer any mowing services for<br>the paper is already full of 'scrubs'.<p>I have made a promise to myself that this<br>will be my last year in the residential mowing biz. <br>
     

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