I need a business coach!

Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by APLUS LAWN CARE, Jul 19, 2013.

  1. APLUS LAWN CARE

    APLUS LAWN CARE LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from North Missouri
    Posts: 587

    I see your point and it was a good point to make. I do want to be a business owner, not someone just working for a landscaping company. I love everything to do with running a business. I do lack some of the aptitude. I am not completely stupid but I am far from knowing everything too, obviously.
     
  2. APLUS LAWN CARE

    APLUS LAWN CARE LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from North Missouri
    Posts: 587

    Thanks for the advice. I am actually pretty good at bidding install work. I normally pad myself pretty good on labor time and materials costs so I have never lost money on install work. Unfortunately, I don't get a lot of install work.
     
  3. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 17,368

    You can make it work.

    "Im kind of thinking that the cemetarys are "killing" you, not to be funny.

    The first thing you need to work on is getting your expenses in line, they should be in the 25 to 30% of what your taking in. That would include getting rid of your small debt.

    Second thing is get equiptment that will increase your speed, put some thought in it and buy used for now if you can.

    200$ per day isn't all that bad and with a little thought and effort it will increase and if your able to decrease your expenses youl be ok.

    Its not a get rich game, its possible to make a decient living and enjoy what you do.
     
  4. APLUS LAWN CARE

    APLUS LAWN CARE LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from North Missouri
    Posts: 587

    Thanks for the sound advice! I appreciate everyone helping me out!
     
  5. APLUS LAWN CARE

    APLUS LAWN CARE LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from North Missouri
    Posts: 587

    I have mixed feelings about the cemeteries. They are a time suck for sure. And I average $20-30 gross per hour mowing cemeteries. So you are right that they are killing me, both physically and financially. But a good chunk of my annual income comes from them so it is hard to give them up. They sure are hard on a person too!

    My expenses are pretty high, and I have made an effort over the past few years to improve that. I still have a lot I could do, however. This year I replaced my mower this year which has saved me almost 75% on mower repair costs. This year I also replaced a gas hog truck (got around 6 mpg pulling trailer) with a truck that gets 12-15 mpg pulling a trailer. I just changed trucks this month, so I haven't seen how much money that is going to save me, but I guess it would be half the fuel bill.

    I have a 60" mower and I wish I could get a 72" because most of my properties could handle a mower that big and it would save me quite a bit of time.
     
  6. APLUS LAWN CARE

    APLUS LAWN CARE LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from North Missouri
    Posts: 587

    On a related note, I do want to make this work. That is why I took a real punch to my pride and put this post on here. I don't like to admit defeat but I understand that in order to grow my business and to grow personally as a manager I am going to have to ask for help. I love doing what I do and I want it to work. What I am doing now is working, but not the way that it should work. I manage to keep my head above water, but that is about it. I don't want to get rich. I just want to make a decent living and be the best at what I do!
     
  7. twomancrew

    twomancrew LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 940

    Welcome to lawn service bud. I started with a cemetery, and i still do it. Let the good times roll, it's a real bugger of a job. It will get easier as you grow and get better equipment. When you grow you will have to decide if you want to keep the cemacem or not because it won't make what other jobs do. Sometime down the road you will realize that cemacem will never fire you if you always do the job. Cemacems pay on time, and have been screwed by every bigtimer in your town. That's why they are taking a chance on you in the first place. They will never fire you if you do them right. You can always keep your insurance going with a cemacem check, even if your broke and cannot opperate you can bounce bcak. Also mine offer to loan me $$ in the winter when I re-sign them. It is all the same to them, they would pay the whole contract up front if I asked for it. I suggest for today to help you out go find something you can sell to them, I once trimmed up all the trees in my cemacem for some quick cash. Find a job you are completely equipped to do. If you have business ownership in you, then you CAN do this and you will get over this hurdle. Start paying your state sales tax now, they are watching you bud. Keep your head up, you are out there doin your thing
     
  8. APLUS LAWN CARE

    APLUS LAWN CARE LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from North Missouri
    Posts: 587

    Thanks for the words of encouragement! It is great to have a group on people on Lawn Site that are so encouraging. That is kind of where I am at with the cemeteries, they always pay on time, never complain, and never ask for me to do extra work, etc. As long as I get their cemetery mowed they don't even bug me at all. I can't say that about any of my other customers. I do occasionally do some other work for the cemetery associations like tree work, work on the stones, etc. They are a ton of work and not a ton of money, but like I said earlier, some money is better than none. But it sure is a killer trying to mow and trim a cemetery in 90+ degree heat. Sometimes, I just wish I could give them up. But I always feel really good when I get done and the cemeteries look beautiful. I always get lots of comments and the cemetery associations always get a lot of donations because they cemetery always looks so nice.
     
  9. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 17,368

    Don't know if this would help, but you could do the cemeterys at sunrise and free up the day for eaiser work.
     
  10. APLUS LAWN CARE

    APLUS LAWN CARE LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from North Missouri
    Posts: 587

    Yes, that does help. I normally work on cemeteries from 6:00 A.M. to around noon, and then I mow residentials in the afternoon. It is the only way I can get it done because I am a little overweight and trimming in the heat just about kills me.
     

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