I tried a demo Super Surfer

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by jeffyr, Nov 30, 2000.

  1. jeffyr

    jeffyr LawnSite Senior Member
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    For those of you interested:

    Last weekend I took a demo Super Surfer out for the day. I was not looking at this mower in particular, but the dealer had so I tried it. Not much to cut, but I got to see how it handled. I have read some threads in the past about the mower and thought I would share my experience with anyone wondering what they are like from a new perspective.

    Good points: Handled real nice and had a good view of the cutting deck. Plenty of power (17 kawi) and it handled great climbed well on hills. There was not much to cut but it left a nice stripe @ 2 1/2 inches. I was impressed with the smooth handling and turning. It was also scary fast and scary scary cutting that fast standing up. There is a spring loaded platform that you stand on and I got bouncing pretty good a couple times trying to see what the mower was all about. The deck adjustment was great. raise a lever, move a pin, and you are done. Took longer to type how to do it than do it for real.

    Bad points (for me): The deck is not offset so it was not possible to trim along a fence or wall, and couldn't do flower beds without putting the rear wheel in it. Also, because the rider stands so close to the deck, when getting close to small trees such as a dogwood or japanese maple the branches were poking my in the face. The last drawback for me was that I couldn't get it into some spots that I can with my walkbehind 48 because you can't tilt back and get the deck over a bed border or railroad ties without climbing (and crushing @ somewhere around 1,000lbs with me on it).

    It was fun and I think everyone should have the pleasure for a day. I got a lot of looks cutting with it. It is definitely geared toward larger open areas (I know it is obvious). Two of the customers I went to with it (side by side) usually takes 35 min. to cut and I did them in 20 minutes, but the time spent trimming along the post fence that I couldn't stick the deck under, or the flower bed I couldn't get cut neat was lost. With some more practice I am sure I could eliminate some of the trimming. Like I said, if you can get one to try for a day, it was a blast ! The most fun I had cutting this season.
    But not for me.

    jeffyr
     
  2. toddman35

    toddman35 LawnSite Member
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    thanks for the info, do you know if the larger decks are offset at all? I think it would be wierd standing on something like that, my dealer just started selling great dane. the super surfer has the floating deck, and the surfer is the fixed? or dont they make the surfer anymore. There was a thread on troubles with either the surfer or the supersufer but i cant find it. Thanks for the info, again.
     
  3. jeffyr

    jeffyr LawnSite Senior Member
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    The demo was a 52" and it was not offset...I would guess the 60" must be though. Yes, it is a floating deck. The Surfer was a fixed deck. if you search Surfer or Stander you will find a bunch of discussion on the problems.
     
  4. Speed triming was not one of the machinces strong points, but I found when I backed off the speed a little, triming was easier. If your having trouble staying on because your bouncing, then speed may be an issue. The Super deck is a floating suspension, and is porbablu one of the best I have seen for that type of mower. I like the spring loaded platform also. Most of the areas we will use it on are configured to accept that kind of cut. I did not demo or evaluate the 60 inch, but he 52 was not offset. Still the best mid mow product out there in my opinion. Review at my website.

    Engineering and hydraulics seemed good. It got a lot of interest and demo's at our field day.
     
  5. jeffyr

    jeffyr LawnSite Senior Member
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    Turfman,

    I was not having trouble staying on, and no I wasn't trying to speed trim. Trimming is not one of the mowers strong points....so far we have agreed. What I was saying about speed is that it is fast...and if I go for a demo, you bet I am gonna see how fast it is, as well as how it turns, cuts, etc.
     
  6. Greenkeepers

    Greenkeepers LawnSite Senior Member
    from NE Ohio
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    Jeffyr-

    What was the top speed and what price range did the dealer give you?
     
  7. Lazer

    Lazer LawnSite Bronze Member
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    No Super Surfers have offset decks.
     
  8. jeffyr

    jeffyr LawnSite Senior Member
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    Thanks Lazer--that was the unanswered question.

    Greenskeeper,
    the brochure from Great Dane states the Super Surfer will do 8.5 mph forward; 4 mph reverse. The 52" with the 17 kawi weighs in at 750 lbs dry--throw 6 gallons of fuel in it and a 200lb operator and there is the 1000lbs.

    jeffyr
     
  9. jeffyr,

    I was just throwing out a general idea about what was going on. What I like to do is take the machines on to an area of uncut grass, cut just a little bit more off than normal, and push the unit until I get jsut a little bogging on the motor. Not much, just a scratch. With the hydrostatic units, you want full rpm's to maintain hydrostat pressures and even power band. That gives you a real good idea of the capabilities of the machine. Good consistent rpm with little or no drop under load.

     
  10. greenland

    greenland LawnSite Member
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    if anyone is thinking about a stand on mower, i reccomend looking at wright stander. my understanding is that wright was the first to produce one and great dane was copying.
     

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