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I Was Wrong...

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by Smallaxe, Sep 26, 2011.

  1. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 10,081

    I could only think of 3 reasons for aeration(plugging) and ridiculed every other idea for it, especially seedbed...

    But I read a post on Lawnsite and decided that since I had the aerator in my hands, that I would beat up this piece of ground until... I hurt...

    Well that single post made me think about something, that I'd never thot about b4...

    When one is confronted with a tough area in which, compaction, puddling and shade come together, to prohibit any kind of grass to grow... What do you do???

    The answer is: Use the aerator like a tiller and loosen the soil to the point of soil viability , then level and overseed...

    Turns out to be a pretty decent seedbed after all... :)

    Who else has had any luck with chronic problem areas like this ?? And: Has it worked for you???
  2. Miles4767

    Miles4767 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 23

    funny you say that. have a customer who has an area in his lawn that is shade and the soil is like concrete. i aerated the crap out of it and had it raked so it was level and seeded. came up very well. problem is that in the spring the grass comes up great, but once the trees bloom and its all shaded the grass thins out.. so we do the same in the fall. also, the customer doesnt water and wont agree with me when i explain the whole you need sun to help the grass and the spot that is shaded almost year round will never have thick turf. but besides that, what you said is what will work
  3. grassman177

    grassman177 LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 9,795

    i do it all the time. beats the alternative of a tiller
  4. fl-landscapes

    fl-landscapes LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,542

    Sounds like an area suited for rotodairon (toro soil cultivator) work. Not that several passes of an aerator wouldn't accomplish nearly the same thing, the rotodairon was built for exactly this type of situation.
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  5. Darryl G

    Darryl G LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 8,033

    Glad you came around... I remember that post :)
  6. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 10,081

    Still don't do single passes for seedbed... if I'm not aerating and a patch needs doing I'll still just use a mantis or a weasel for the patches as opposed to getting an aerator...

    Miles, I've been doing some poa supina in the shade and so far so good, but the seed is expensive so watering will be a little more important...
  7. jfoxtrot9

    jfoxtrot9 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 281

    Do it frequently. Major advantage if the aerator is hydro to move back and forth quickly.
  8. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 10,081

    What you are saying is foriegn to me... Plz, clarify... :)
  9. americanlawn

    americanlawn LawnSite Fanatic
    from midwest
    Posts: 5,859

    Ditto buddy - short of using a rototiller, the new hydro-drive aerators really cut the mustard. Go forward & reverse as many times as you want (especially for bad areas), and the seed bed is very well prepared. Slit seeding/drill seeding merely places seed in an already bad environment >> good luck with that.

    Had folks stop by in recent months to demo our LS & XT5 walk behind hydro aerators. To the best of my knowledge, all ended up ordering the XT5. Paul from Muscatine was here today. (thanks buddy) :waving:

  10. fl-landscapes

    fl-landscapes LawnSite Silver Member
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    I have a rotodairon and use it in these types of situations. But I also use my slit seeder to seed. Saying slit seeding only puts seed in a bad environment may be correct unless you address those problems which could be many things other than compaction. I'm just saying aerating the bad environment and seeding isn't going to help you either if the problem is anything but compaction.
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