ICPI courses

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by cedarcroft, Jan 4, 2006.

  1. cedarcroft

    cedarcroft LawnSite Senior Member
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    I am think about taking the certified concrete paver installer course through ICPI and also a course on retaining walls. are these courses worth the money? anyone ever take them? any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
     
  2. Jamesgateslandscaping

    Jamesgateslandscaping LawnSite Senior Member
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    Do it, great resource, learn new things and network with a bunch of local guys from not just your town or area but the region. They are run very nicely and are worth every cent.
    James
     
  3. Craftybigdog

    Craftybigdog LawnSite Senior Member
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    Im going to the Middle Atlantic Hardscaping tradeshow in Atlantic City put on by EP Henry and Im going to take there ICPI Certification class and then a retaining wall class and a couple of more, basically to take up a whole week. I sure hope it is worth the money.
     
  4. Dreams To Designs

    Dreams To Designs LawnSite Bronze Member
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    You will learn a great deal, not all of it relevant to the real world, but much of it is. You can never beat a hands on education, and you will not get that at MAHTS. If you want to get into hardscaping, look to sub for someone that is experienced and capable or hire a consultant that can teach you and guide you in this new income stream for your business. Classrooms are great, but will never equal the education you will get on the job. The ICPI certification course is just that, a course for you to gain the certification of the ICPI. ICPI is an independent advisory board that has developed standards and practices, none of which are laws, but only guidelines to help you. You may also get guidance from your paver suppliers or dealers that will come out to your jobs and advise you from their own experience. This board is another excellent source of information and assistance. Don't think because you take the classes you are now an accomplished installer. That will take time and a great deal of effort on your part. The classes will give you a headstart and hopefully the information to accomplish the tasks correctly and safely.

    Kirk
     
  5. Craftybigdog

    Craftybigdog LawnSite Senior Member
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    Thank you very much!
     
  6. Dreams To Designs

    Dreams To Designs LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Jason, I just don't want you to be disappointed when, with the course load you are taking, everything is not very clear. You need lots of on the job training to make money hardscaping and even more time and challenges to get good at it. Get as much education as you can afford, and ICPI is a good source. Check the local colleges and sometimes even the local high schools or vocational schools that run paver programs will be a help. The more time you get doing installs with the guidance of someone that knows what they are doing, the less aggravating and more profitable this venture can become. If you would like, I have assembled a pretty complete list of tools and equipment to get you started and would be happy to email it to you. I'm sure there are quite a few quality installers here that can add to that and offer their own tips and tricks.

    When I work with an installer looking to expand into hardscaping, I always stress keeping the paver business separate to keep track of expenses, equipment and profits. You can certainly use the large tools or vehicles for more than 1 division, but all the small tools and equipment should be duplicated or separated among crews. There is a system to installing pavers and retaining walls efficiently, safely and profitably. Learn and tweak it for yourself and your business, don't try to reinvent the wheel. Pavers have been installed for thousands of years in Europe and many decades here in North America. Work with the knowledge others have gained and make it work for you.

    Kirk
     
  7. SONSCAPES

    SONSCAPES LawnSite Member
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    DREAMS,CAN YOU EMAIL ME THAT LIST ALSO sonscapes03@yahoo.com i took the icpi class last year very good class a little over my head at times though. i have my first job coming up this month. thanks in advance for the email.
     
  8. Davis Lawncare

    Davis Lawncare LawnSite Member
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    I would like the email also. Could you send it to mustangs04@yahoo.com? That would be great, thank you in advance!
     
  9. Drafto

    Drafto LawnSite Senior Member
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  10. medimac

    medimac LawnSite Member
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    craftybigdog,

    when is that show in atlantic city
     

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