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Indianapolis Subs--

Discussion in 'Employment' started by SchnabelLawnCare, Dec 23, 2009.

  1. RABBITMAN11

    RABBITMAN11 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,370

    According to Indiana state chemist in order for you to bill fertilization you stil must carry proper certification. Basically you must carry a 3b even if your not doing the work! Anyone doing sub work for someone needs to be aware of this.
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  2. Raymond S.

    Raymond S. LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 977

    I believe if you designate your service in some way as "subcontracted", you can bill fertilization w/out licensing. As long as your customers know you are not performing the service you are ok. (basically if you ever got a complaint from a competitor and the state decided to check on a customer and ask them, "are you aware your LCO is not a licensed applicator...etc.") as long as they answer "yes", then you're alright.
     
  3. RABBITMAN11

    RABBITMAN11 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,370

    Your incorrect! I have been down this road so beleive me I know.
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  4. Lawn Man Dave

    Lawn Man Dave LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 420

    Nor can someone who does not even apply fert for a living go and do it at say for their church for free and out of the kindness of their heart.....

    I knew someone that did this and they got a talking to.......



    Know the law's....... don't trust what John Doe tell's you.........
     
  5. JayD

    JayD LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,060

    This is getting crazy......
    I have a copy of email from a guy at Purdue, and he told me himself that you can put fert down without a license, its weed control that requires a license. If I remember right, the license is for if you do it for hire right?

    I know I should leave this post to you that do treatments, I do not, and I know you know more about it than I. I just know that I kept that copy for just saving it.
    If I can find it, I will show you it...

    sorry, I did not mean to jump in here where I don't belong.
     
  6. Lawn Man Dave

    Lawn Man Dave LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 420

    He was applying fert, the church later had ato hire a guy to do it. The guy that got caught said he was doing it for free and he was told that it did not matter. He did not get fined or anything, just a verbal warning.


    I have allways heard you need a liscence because of the chemical's involved...... some are not good for mother earth from what I hear if you use to much or the wrong combo or whatever. That and they want to keep track of people so they can keep an eye on their record's and how they are storing it......... some fert's can also go boom so they want to keep track of how much people have........ if you are buying it in alarming quantities people will want to know.
     
  7. RABBITMAN11

    RABBITMAN11 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,370

    First of all, this is what my business is. Second it is my job to know the law. I don't care what letter you have. Acording to the Indiana state chemist you must carry insurance and business cert and personal cert. You also must keep paper work regarding apps. If your not sure just check out the Indiana state chemists website. Any for hire is required. The question was subs needed.
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  8. Raymond S.

    Raymond S. LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 977

    I'm not going to argue because it really isn't that important to me. I was told by an agent from the Indiana State Chemist office as recently as last fall that you cannot directly advertise or administer services for "weed control", pesticide, etc without a license. You can however advertise or apply fertilizer without a license. If you choose to subcontract application services you can do so as long as you notify your customers this service is being subcontracted, either in a form of a written letter or as simple as putting it next to the service on every invoice.

    http://www.isco.purdue.edu/pesticide/3b.html

    Again, I'm not sure what your "job" is be it enforcing this rule or applying product, but this was from an agent at the office in regards to this exact subject. I have an email somewhere.
     
  9. JayD

    JayD LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,060

    Rabbi..........

    Don't get so uptight over it...... We're glad you are doing everything right and we're glad you know the law. We were just stating what we were told too and like the other guy on here said, we have an email to back it up. Our info came from the same place you got yours...........Even though I have a letter from Purdue telling me I can apply fert, I do not. I sub that stuff out. Who knows, I may call on you some day to sub to....Calm down man...
     
  10. scagmower

    scagmower LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 382

    How or where can u get certified to apply Lawn Apps?

    Thanks
     

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