I got a toro 21" hd commercial mower with bbc and kawi engine for $1100 delivered off ebay from a dealer selling there. It was apparently a floor unit but was brand new. The best price I'd found previously was $1250 plus tax, or about $237 more. I can't believe Toro wants $1450 msrp on these things. But I needed something with a powerful drive system. Personal Pace was killing me on hills.