Irrigation subs

Discussion in 'Starting a Lawn Care Business' started by rockytopseahawk, Sep 3, 2010.

  1. rockytopseahawk

    rockytopseahawk LawnSite Member
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    I am close to signing to install all new sod and an irrigation system on a 4500sf project. I haven't installed systems before but have an ex-LCO man who moved here from CA who has years of experience with irrigation that I found on craigslist who will be helping. I bid $7k for the project and want to know if anyone has a feeling on appropriate compensation for the irr. help considering his expertise? 3 zones, 134 total heads. Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Fireguy97

    Fireguy97 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Something doesn't add up;

    4500sf - 3 zones - 134 heads

    You must have some wild pressure and great flow to average 45 heads per zone.

    Is he trained? ...has he 'worked' on irrigation system before, or was he labor (cutting the grass) for an LCO and occasionally helped out with an Irrigation system here and there?

    This year I have done numerous repairs and renovations, some of them pretty extensive, for clients that that have had 'experienced' people come in to install their irrigation system. I've made some great money fixing what these people call, "That's the way it's done, we do that all of the time!"

    It might have made more sense and less headaches to partner up with an Irrigation Contractor to do the irrigation work than to have someone like this with unknown references.

    Mick
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2010
  3. rockytopseahawk

    rockytopseahawk LawnSite Member
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    I spoke to his supervisor from CA and he checks out. I may be off on the zones, just got the plan back. Does the bid seem on target for a project of that size?
     
  4. AI Inc

    AI Inc LawnSite Fanatic
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    So true, but Mick is correct . The numbers dont add up.If it is 134 heads I doubt any contractor would touch it for under $11k , even working wholesale as a sub.
     
  5. Fireguy97

    Fireguy97 LawnSite Senior Member
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    I'm glad that he has checked out.

    Nope

    Do you know what the flow rate and your working pressure is?

    Mick
     
  6. ochosdaddy

    ochosdaddy LawnSite Member
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    Nah, your zones sound about right, but you've got to be way off on the head count. Can't see any way you'd be using 134 heads unless this is some narrow strip all the way - and if that's the case you've bid this too low.
     
  7. Fireguy97

    Fireguy97 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Who designed the system? Have you seen the yard?

    Mick
     
  8. Cloud9Landscapes

    Cloud9Landscapes LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ca
    Posts: 546

    You can't calculate the amount of heads and zones needed off square footage. There are many factors into doing this but the amount of water each sprinkler head puts out and pipe size is what you mainly have to be concerned about. You need to zone according to hydro-zones. Just the fact this guy is doing this would raise a red flag for me. Go to you local ewing and ask them who is dependable and explain your situation and they could probably help you.

    I don't see why more of you don't do your own irrigation. It's easy, goes hand in glove with lawn care, and is a great source of revenue.
     
  9. Fireguy97

    Fireguy97 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 394

    I Agree with Cloud9. All of you should get into doing your own irrigation! I make thousands of dollars every year fixing systems that get installed by people that figure, "It's easy, and is a great source of revenue."

    Mick
     
  10. Fireguy97

    Fireguy97 LawnSite Senior Member
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    The OP has a plan. It sounds like someone else did the plan. He wasn't calculating heads by square footage, where did you get that from?

    What 'guy' is doing this? His Craigslist helper? He didn't, see plan above.

    Mick
     

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