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Is "DRIVE" supposed to...........

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by ChicagoLawn, Aug 27, 2003.

  1. ChicagoLawn

    ChicagoLawn LawnSite Member
    Posts: 126

    Is "DRIVE" herbicide supposed to work very slow?????

    After 3 years of using Momentum as my herbicide of choice, this season (as most of us know) we have had several small outbreaks of crabgrass and other related grassy weeds. So I figured I would spend a little more for the convenience of using 1 herbicide instead of mixing Momentum w/Acclaim as an example.

    Most of the "DRIVE" treated lawns are not irrigated, and it has been 80-90 degrees. I know it is very warm and dry but was it a good time to start DRIVE with the before mentioned conditions?

    .367 oz. per 1000 sq. ft. as the label states.

    Will the "DRIVE" remain on the labeled weeds for extended periods of time until irrigation or rain fall occurs?

    Thank you,

  2. Enviro Green

    Enviro Green LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 324

    Did you also use the MSO as the label mentions?

  3. ChicagoLawn

    ChicagoLawn LawnSite Member
    Posts: 126

    We used Lesco "Sticker" per label specifications.........
  4. grassguy_

    grassguy_ LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ohio
    Posts: 633

    Without the seed oil concentrate added you'll get minimal results.
  5. With the Lesco sticker it whould take 10-18 days...

    Most of the hebicide for a select few weeds take a longer time.

    The next real question is, what did you apply it with?

    A back pack sprayer applying .367 oz per 3000 sqft, the stuff isn;t going to work so well. I did read you said per 1000, but are you really applying 1 gallon per 1000? DO you know that for sure?
  6. LawnJohn

    LawnJohn LawnSite Member
    from Atlanta
    Posts: 147

    Taking the advise of LGF I applied Drive (with chelated iron and Lesco sticker) to my back yard 8 days later I began to see results however the bottom dropped out (rain) here in GA day 10 after my app for 5 days straight then a few days of sun, then rain, then sun, then rain.......you get the picture.

    When the off and on days ended... "Hi my name is...........crabgrass". Go figure.

    There's no doubt Drive will perform a "Trinity Kick" on crabgrass , but with all the rain we've had this year, it's not worth the expense with fall around the corner.

    ... my .02
  7. ChicagoLawn

    ChicagoLawn LawnSite Member
    Posts: 126

    Since DRIVE is new to my arsenal of weed control, I thought I would take it slow to treat all of my lawns, instead I treated about 15.

    1/2 of those lawns were done with a 100 gal. tank/sprayer - 2 gal/1000, which I mixed at .1835 oz. drive/ per gallon which equates to .367 oz. per 1,000 sq. ft. and used lesco sticker (not the seed oil)

    Then the other half mixed .367 oz. drive per gallon in a back pack sprayer and Lesco sticker......... same results.

    Not much rain since treatments were completed.

    Can I go back and hit the same lawns with a Momentum, Acclaim and Lesco sticker combo to knock the broadleaf and grassy weeds down???????

    That combination seems to work well for me.

    Where am I going wrong? Why didnt the Lesco rep tell me the seed oil was so important/ if in fact it is?

  8. Enviro Green

    Enviro Green LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 324

    Hard to say, but its on the label. Did you ever think that they might be leaving something else out too when they are telling you things?

    I have had mixed results. In one lawn we cooked all the carb and remaining broadleaves in 10 days, in one lawn you can't even tell I sprayed it. However, on the poor performer i tank mixed with Fore Fungicide on the good lawn I tank mixed with Eagle, and one lawn is right in the middle and i sprayed it straight Drive, but I also sprayed part of it with MSMA once too, so who knows....

    I think it works fine, mixed as labelled with the right sticker.

  9. I seen them crabs die and new one pop up in place of the too.

    Man I think cost wise I am going back to MSMA. At leat it will yellow the crabs.
  10. MOW ED

    MOW ED LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 5,028

    If these were your conditions then it was not a good time to apply Drive75. Page 3 of the Drives label states;
    If soil moisture is not sufficient PRIOR to Drive75DF Herbicide application, irrigation may improve weed control. For best results, do not water or irrigate for 24 hours after application. If rainfall does not occur in 2 to 7 days after application, irrigation of at least one-half inch is recommended.

    I have had good results with this product but there are some tight perameters that have to be followed. Just my 2cents.

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