Is overseeding risky this late in the season in the Chicago area?

Discussion in 'Landscape Maintenance' started by DJB, Oct 10, 2013.

  1. DJB

    DJB LawnSite Member
    Posts: 43

    We have an overseeding job for an existing client involving about 11 acres. Some areas are sloped and will have erosion blanket. With all the expense, how late into the season would you risk overseeding with one of your best clients?
     
  2. garciajj612

    garciajj612 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 113

    Are you getting temps in the 80s?
     
  3. Above Par Lawns

    Above Par Lawns LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 512

    It's getting pretty late in the year but if you don't seed it someone else will. I heard that from a friend today. Just warn them about what could happen if the weather turns for the worse. Suggest to them they do a follow up dormant/spring seeding for best results.
     
  4. DJB

    DJB LawnSite Member
    Posts: 43

    We're getting 70's in the day time and 50's at night. What I'm worried about is what will it be two or three weeks from now. If I understand correctly, once we start getting below 50 at night it won't do much. What I'm worried about is having it come up now but not establish itself adequately enough to survive the winter. We have talked about a dormant seeding but I've heard that a dormant seeding is generally 50-80% as effective as a regular season seeding. It's especially the Kentucky Bluegrass I'm worried about since it takes longer to germinate.
     
  5. andersman02

    andersman02 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 501

    We stopped seeding last week. Pretty risky now. Like someone said, someone else will do it though. Only difference is the customer wont be happy with that company next year and will hire you to reseed it.
     
  6. Above Par Lawns

    Above Par Lawns LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 512

    Yeah sorry I should have asked what seed you are using. Bluegrass will obviously take a little longer. Why have they waited until so late? If they're one of your best clients they should have already got the seed down. Do they understand the risk and still want to move forward? If so, take the job.
     
  7. DJB

    DJB LawnSite Member
    Posts: 43

    The other factor is that from early spring they have sports teams playing on some of the grounds. This makes dormant or spring seeding less attractive. I realize that a month ago would have been optimal but they were not ready to move then. I'm not so worried about them going with someone else. It's always possible but we do have a long term relationship and they seem trust my advise. I want to do what's best. I could tell them wait till next fall but that would essentially be saying "Wait till 2015 and you'll have a nice lawn".
     
  8. Valk

    Valk LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,711

    Our State extension office recommends that Oct 15th be the target date line (drawn in the sand) for reseeding. You're not that much farther North, but the real issue is how fast cold weather gets here/there. If the roots are not established - then they will be desiccated/heaved right out of the soil with all the freezing's/thawing's that are on the way.
     
  9. DJB

    DJB LawnSite Member
    Posts: 43

    Thanks Valk. That's helpful. Anyone else from Northern Illinois?
     
  10. Valk

    Valk LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,711

    In the future & assuming it is October: Yesterday is better than tomorrow. Last week is better than tomorrow. Last month is better than tomorrow.

    Yeah, yeah...this is no help now...but next year ~ try using the above strategery to get folks to MOVE. IFF they are not willing to water as needed, which may be as much as 3x/day for up to 14-20 days...then they very well may be wasting their money.
     

Share This Page