Is Stihl Ultra oil GOOD

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  1. exmarkking

    exmarkking LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Where do u get the motul and castrol?
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  2. jkilov

    jkilov LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I can get both at the local motorcycle shop (Honda Grenada).

    In general most 2-stroke motorcycle oils work better than products marketed for the green industry. Just be careful to chose a product with similar (or better) specifications to the OEM oil for your equipment.

    Just to name a few good matches:
    - Motul 510 2T: good semi-synthetic
    - Motul 710 2T: one of the best full-synthetics out there
    - Castrol RS TTS: not as good as Motul 710 but great value
    - Shell Advance Ultra 2: another good full-synthetic

    There are many others, but choose wisely and avoid racing oils. These are higher in viscosity (drops to normal in a hot-running racing engine) and often high flash points so as not to burn too quickly in racing applications and add some lubrication to power-valve systems. Running racing oil in handheld equipment can drag them down. I've tried it and it did it.

    The good thing about the above oils is you don't pay for any re-branding procedures. Who makes it, sells it.
     
  3. jkilov

    jkilov LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Forgot to mention: there are 2 minor drawbacks to motorcycle oils:

    - most don't contain fuel stabilizers

    - most have a faint dye/tint as premix bikes are very rare these days
     
  4. exmarkking

    exmarkking LawnSite Bronze Member
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    What about the motul 800? Also I'm trying to figure out cost per gallon. I think the opti-2 I was running is $20.00, and it made 25 gallons. What ratio would I mix the motul at and how many gallons could I get out of a quart? How do you mix it? The opti-2 had a measuring tool built into the container that you just squeezed.
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  5. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
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    Saber- $11.00 p/qt. 4 oz makes 2.5 gal at 80:1. That means a quart can make 20 gallons of mix at 80:1. 1 gallon of Saber would make 80 gallons of 80:1 mix for $44.

    Pretty hard to beat that price and still get that kind of performance.
     
  6. exmarkking

    exmarkking LawnSite Bronze Member
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    so could I run the motul 800 at 4oz per 2.5 gallons?
     
  7. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
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    Not unless it is rated specifically for 80:1 or leaner mix ratios.
     
  8. exmarkking

    exmarkking LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I'm so confused!! Could you guys please help me out. I was looking on the motul website and I think they offer the premix in the motul 710 and 800. The 800 is race/off road. It comes in a 1 liter bottle which is a little more than a quart. But it's saying to mix 2-4% with gas depending on what ratio you want. If I remember correctly it was 40:1 or 32:1. Can someone give me some definite answers on what's safe to run? Because if I've done my math correctly, the opti-2 costs around $0.80 per gallon and the motul would be around $0.30 per gallon. That's cheaper per gallon and a better oil
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  9. smallstripesnc

    smallstripesnc LawnSite Senior Member
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  10. GrassGuerilla

    GrassGuerilla LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Previously marketed as Shindaiwa Red Armor. JASO FD rated. Top shelf.
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