Is this a good deal?

Discussion in 'Mechanic and Repair' started by MoGreen, Aug 5, 2011.

  1. MoGreen

    MoGreen LawnSite Member
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    Swisher 60" B&S 25hp v twin. 140hrs.
    The right hydro pump has gone up and needs to be replaced. I've gotten estimates of around $700-$800.
    The lady is splitting with her husband and is selling for $500.
    What do these go for? Is Swisher a good brand?
    How does this compare to my Bobcat Leo with 19hp B&S engine?
    I'm thinking of buying it, fixing the hydro, and selling my current Bobcat.
    Thanks for any input. Haven't heard much about the "Swisher" brand name.....
    :confused:
     
  2. piston slapper

    piston slapper LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Its a homeowner grade mower...definitely NOT commercial.
     
  3. dutch1

    dutch1 LawnSite Silver Member
    from Jayhawk
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    Here is their website.

    http://www.swisherinc.com/

    You can check/order parts online. Might be helpful in checking prices.

    Other than that, I haven't seen nor worked on one in 20+ years so I can't comment one way or the other on quality.

    Someone more familiar with the product will likely check in later.

    Hydro pump out in 140 hours? Not that it's impossible but unlikely in my opinion unless it might have been mistreated--operated with brake on among other things. It might be wise the check the belt/idler for the pumps.
     
  4. piston slapper

    piston slapper LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I've seen 2 in the last year...Not impressed.
    If they make a commercial duty mower, I havent seen it.
    The ones I saw resembled a Dixon. Thin metal frames and decks.
    Gear/hydraulic units like in the box store ZTR's..
     
  5. dutch1

    dutch1 LawnSite Silver Member
    from Jayhawk
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    Thanks, Slapper. That was my impression of the last one I saw but didn't know what changes/improvements had been made over the years. If I were to compare to something on the market today, it would be the Cub Cadet/MTD zero turns.
     
  6. MoGreen

    MoGreen LawnSite Member
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    Thanks for the reply-I appreciate it.
    Went to look at it today (ZT2660B Z Max) and wasn't too impressed myself. My Bobcat looks to have a thicker deck AND frame and it didn't look like it was that high quality.
    The lady is including a "Box Scraper" (I think that's what it is called) attachment for leveling out driveway stones/ground/etc.....
    I think I'm going to get it and see if it really is the hydro. Reading up on the website, they SAY they are commercial Eaton hydros....
    Unless he ran it dry, it's hard to believe it just "went up" after 133.8 hrs.
    How about taking the motor off and putting it on my Bobcat? I know they came with an optional B&S V-twin and my deck is pre-drilled for another motor-maybe even the one she has on hers!!!?
    The motor alone is worth the $500, right? Thanks again for your help!!!!
     
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2011
  7. piston slapper

    piston slapper LawnSite Platinum Member
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    MO....something you need to know about residential grade eqpt.
    It has a useful life expectancy of 300-350 hours. This is how long they are expected to work when they are drawn up by the engineers. Every component on it has that expectation. If the customer worked it real hard, its possible to wear out the hydro's that fast. As far as the engine being worth 500 ? Will it even work on your mower? is the crank the same? You may open a can of worms.
     
  8. pugs

    pugs LawnSite Gold Member
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    Not too hard to believe if they were using it to pull a box scraper...
     
  9. MoGreen

    MoGreen LawnSite Member
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    Ohhh, GOOD point! Never thought of THAT!! (using the box scraper to pull behind would possibly burn up a hydro)
    Oh yeah, my Bobcat had the B&S 25hp v-twin as an "optional" motor and the previous owner opted for the 19hp instead. I checked the frame, and it "appears" to have the same exact bolt pattern as the other mower I just purchased. Don't you think this will fit?
    What other problems would I expect to run into IF I try to put the motor on mine?
    Possible length/height of the pulley/electrical clutch assembly? I see on the schematics that there is a different part number available for the 19hp and 25hp pulley/electrical clutch assemblies.....also, I wonder if the charging system is the same amperage-wise.
    Thanks again!

    Is there a "general" place a lot of people go to order new hydro pumps or get them rebuilt? My neighbor told me to just get a new one-they are not really rebuildable-it's not worth it.....?
    It appears to be an Eaton p/n 10269 right hand hydro w reserve and tank and ext......?
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2011
  10. pugs

    pugs LawnSite Gold Member
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    You may run into issues on an engine swap. The bobcat might be a 1 1/8" shaft while the other one could be a 1" but you wont know until you lookup both engines or measure them both.
     

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