I have had my web site up for years and get very good results from it. I get an honest 4-10 hits a day, everyday. It is used mostly for information about what we do and how we do it. I use it as a reference for pictures of my work to potential customers. A lot of people don't like Frames. But I have found that it is the easiest and best way to build a site. I keep common information on the side (like links) and top (like logo, phone & address) and the main page is the only one that needs to change if needed. I have given a lot of "constructive critizium" to many of the web sites that have asked for it on Lawn & Plow site. Give it to me I can take it. And in the end it is my site and if I don't like your statement, I don't have to listen to you. Anyway, check it out and let me know what you think.